Nizar vs zombie = back to high court = delaying verdict = jeopardize the 7/5 session = after 13/5 : dissolve assembly automatically = election for whole perak = !!??
However, THEFT is NOT the correct word to say. Since Sultan Azlan Shah had given his consent for BN to rule Perak, then, surely it's NOT THEFT.
For Pakatan Rakyat to keep insisting & still fantasizing themselves as the State Govt., then, that is what I call THEFT. In view to be precise....it's "THEFT IN FANTASY".
To those who still think BN had robbed off the freedom & rights of all fellow PERAKIANS, then, you're in TROUBLE cos' you're being "BIADAP dan DERHAKA" to our highly respected Sultan. You can be arrested for DEFAMATION & SEDITION for insulting the Sultan's decision.
Please respect the Sultan & more importantly please accept the TRUE FACT. The fact is that BN is the WORTHY & VALID State Govt of Perak.
"People who accepts FACTS are called HUMANS, while, people who can't accept FACTS are called DREAMERS"
However, THEFT is NOT the correct word to say. Since Sultan Azlan Shah had given his consent for BN to rule Perak, then, surely it's NOT THEFT.
For Pakatan Rakyat to keep insisting & still fantasizing themselves as the State Govt., then, that is what I call THEFT. In view to be precise....it's "THEFT IN FANTASY".
To those who still think BN had robbed off the freedom & rights of all fellow PERAKIANS, then, you're in TROUBLE cos' you're being "BIADAP dan DERHAKA" to our highly respected Sultan. You can be arrested for DEFAMATION & SEDITION for insulting the Sultan's decision.
Please respect the Sultan & more importantly please accept the TRUE FACT. The fact is that BN is the WORTHY & VALID State Govt of Perak.
"People who accepts FACTS are called HUMANS, while, people who can't accept FACTS are called DREAMERS"
Unlike Tokz & the history Perak UMNO's...I'm a local boy is still very very keen with Perak Situation. I'm concern of UMNO's cruelty & forceful backdoor take over. Only UMNO pals trying to forget the past sin. I'm concern of the State now run by the pirated MB Zamry & his goons. It will be big loss if State disposed Camry, but big GAIN if Zamry been disposed instead. It is Perak crisis that open up many rakyats eye how nasty & power hungy this UMNO's BN is. Perakians wants justice, but UMNO is the LAW. Perak wants thier own choice of MB..its rakyat power not UMNO's.
If Tokz wants to forget..please go read elsewhere. This blog is not for the blind & corrupt & evil.
PERAK crisis is still close to my heart. I hve enuff with UMNO's BN.
It is gonna be a mayhem in the Perak assembly, gonna be a mega drama, a musical chair. This is what happens when we are myopic and self centered without a greater vision for Malaysia.
Have you ever heard of the rule of law and as far as Malaysia is concerned, NOBODY is above the rule of the highest law of the land - ask Dr Mahathir if you still believe otherwise.
What happened in Perak had not conformed with the rule of law and if the Courts are where justice is served, then, what happened in Perak is tantamount to a coup and coups are actions which are against the Constitution of Malaysia.
So, before you formulated any of your conclusion of the outcome of this event, please get to know the real facts, the right facts first instead of being so easily smittened by the MSM reports and their lies!
Most of the time, people arrived at conclusions because of the information they received. If these information are incorrect or are just blatant propagandas, then, decisions arrived at are skewed and therefore incorrect.
If you believed whatever MSM had reported all these while, then, I wish you well - for to behave like an ostrich burying its head in the sand and assuming everything is alright is not something our new generation of well informed rakyats will ever accept.
We gets our information from across the various sources available and if you still insist on your version of events, then, nothing could be done for people like you ...because ostriches are not know for their intelligence!
However, it's WRONG to put the blame solely on UMNO. Pls. DO NOT forget that Sultan Azlan Shah himself had also agreed to BN forming the NEW State Govt. in Perak.
As much as most Pakatan Rakyat leaders & supporters would wanna point their finger at UMNO but it's only FAIR if we all look at the entire scenario on a LEVEL PERSPECTIVE.
The rejection of Sultan Azlan Shah towards Pakatan Rakyat being the State Govt. must have its' own reason. Perhaps, Sultan is extremely upset with how those inexperienced leaders from Pakatan Rakyat were handling things in Perak (corruption, power abuse, disrespect to the Royalty, etc)
We can ofcourse insult UMNO but we MUST NEVER insult the Sultan. I believe there are MORE DIRT behind why Sultan Azlan rejected Pakatan Rakyat from his highness State in Perak.
P.S. - Please learn to see things that are OUT OF THE BOX. Refrain from being NARROW MINDED as it gets us NO WHERE.
Well written but I'm SAD to say your opinion lacks WEIGHT. I can see you're the type who are extremely AGAINST mainstream media. However, I gotta respect your choice as it's your freedom & rights.
You have been reading to many NONSENSE NEWS from alternative news websites. So much so, you're menatlity had been manipulated by these incorrect news.
As much as this debate can go on till year 2020, the FACT is that BN is now the VALID State Govt of Perak. Pakatan Rakyat's days in Perak is now HISTORY.
No point talking about an issue of which WILL NOT change. Didn't you hear Sultan Azlan Shah saying "Selamat Tinggal Pakatan Rakyat"???
You're nevertheless a DREAMER dreaming in Pakatan Rakyat's fantasy. Hello..."Wake up", bro!!!
Sad but true, I agree with what TOKZ have commented.
Most of us hates UMNO & this is the fact. However, Sultan of Perak too had voiced his dissatisfaction with Pakatan Rakyat Govt. in Perak.
If UMNO were the only one creating monkey troubles in Perak, then, I understand. However, this is not the case when I found out even the Sultan is going against Pakatan Rakyat in Perak.
There must be something dodgy that is not exposed to 'the rakyat' yet. I assume Pakatan Rakyat had made Sultan Azlan Shah snapped his patience.
I don't understand why this chap by the name of TOKZ insist of mentioning the Sultan when in actual fact,it is just a stamping pad for the legislative assembly .The Sultan is just a mere symbol and the speaker of the legislative assembly of the state is the supreme figure. Go and read the Article 72 (1) and it stated clearly that you could not question or charge any legislative Assembly of any state in the country.Infact,BN is a pirate robbing the legislative government of the PR and are afraid of the Perak people who are demanding to dissolve the state assembly for a by-election.
Blind loyalty to and respect for hierarchy is no longer viable, and don't give me all that krap that "it's in our culture". Loyalty and respect must be earned. We are living in the 21st century!
Well if the Sultan says thats its BN's state..then why do we perakian vote or for that matter why does anyone vote la? Then just get all the sultans to appoint their own CM and MB and then lets see what happens.
By the way..me and some major perakian didnt vote for BN to rule our beloved and currently robbed- out state!!
Its still relevant...and shall be until justice found.
Anon3:42pm. Try to get your facts correct when you come in here. I do not go to the press club now. I go to the Wharf where fish is plentiful and where singles abound. Howzat? How lah to die tomorrow? I am only 69 and contemplating 70. I have many more years to go because I mix with healthy people with healthy minds. How lah to die tomorrow? Anyway, you are free to wish that I die tomorrow.Peace to men of goodwill and piss to men who wish evil intent on others. I hope you are happy now. Smell the coffee and have healthy friends....do a lot of fishing and meet singles...macallan, old puteney, singletons....u dont know what you are missing when you don't have healthy friends like I have.
TOKZ must have hope that the whole nation are idiots so that his pals/umno will go about doing what they wish. Don't talk about derhaka, where were you when mahatir clip the royalty wings. I'm for fresh elections, why not bn who until today claims that they have the support of the people.
"We can ofcourse insult UMNO but we MUST NEVER insult the Sultan. I believe there are MORE DIRT behind why Sultan Azlan rejected Pakatan Rakyat from his highness State in Perak."
Dissolve and let the people of Perak decide then. That's the only constitutional way. I wish you have better knowledge about the law. It's not insulting like the way you have put it. So stop trying to provoke like the BN goons have. If the Sultan says stealing is right then everyone should abide to it? Can't be argued? If arguing, that means insulting the Sultan even though the law says stealing is against the law?
Santa....no need alarm clock...the reality is that the people of Perak were robbed by devious machinations and supported by the ruler.
Anon3:49.....I have never heard the Sultan say anything about misrule by PR. Did anyone hear this? Prostitution and whoring took place, special draw money was used.
But the ruler might have been humiliated when Nizar said: I beg to disagree!
Anon 4:14pm....are you saying that the sultan is infallible. What he edicts cannot be questioned? Only GOD is infallible. To be beloved one must be loved. Is he loved?Respect cannot be demanded, it must be earned.
It's me again, the 3.59 anon. I guess you've made your point and said it all. To the Perakians, am so sorry that you are slaves to the Sultan. Thanks for reminding people this is exactly the kind of system runs by Umno goons. No wonder i started seeing so many Vehicle Plate No. starts with A in Selangor these days.
i) sultan has NO power to ask MB nizar to resign. sultan only takes what is given to him. this is not the feufalistic era. he can tegur, he can advise, he can recommend; but he has NO executive/legislative/judiciary power. zilch. tak ada. not even 1%. zero.
ii) MB nizar's govt is still the valid one.
iii) "memohon untuk derhaka" is just to salvage whatever little 'face' left of the sultan at that point in time.
NOW its war !! **
**(not real armed war, and not with the palace. it's WAR between PR/rakyat vs UMNO/BN !!)
uncle zorro and his band of brothers, we netizens support you all ALL THE F%(*&#$(#KING WAY!!!
GOD is NOT a human so let's leave GOD out of this topic.
Where else for the respect for Sultan..."It's a MUST" (like it or not).
The Sultan is ABOVE the law & no one can question his decisions.
I find it a SHAME for a young man like me to teach an OLD FELLA like you about understanding something called "RESPECT".
I bet your son, daughter & grandchildren doesn't know what the HELL is RESPECT all about too. Perhaps, this runs inside your family (a KURANG AJAR type of broken family)
You mentioned "Dissolve and let the people of Perak decide then".
Well it's easy to say BUT difficult to execute. Why am I saying it's difficult???? Becos':
1) The Sultan had BANNED Pakatan Rakyat from Perak.
2) The Sultan DOES NOT want another election becos' it's a waste of time & money.
3) The Sultan thinks that BN is a far better State Govt. than Pakatan Rakyat.
4) The Sultan doesn't wish to see & hear anymore rubbish about Pakatan Rakyat in Perak becos' Pakatan have no sense of respect for MONARCHY RULE.
5) Perakians are merely SERVANTS & SLAVES to the Sultan. The Sultan is the MASTER, while, Perakians are SLAVES. Slaves only listens to their Masters."
thank you umno / bn bozo.. ure a dumb ass for telling the whole of msia wat u umno /bn leeches think of us perakians.... rais yatim must hav give u umno /bn bloggers a real good makan malam huh...yaya buat kerja...wat u've just written will be known to all perakians n bear in mind u might just hav contributed big time to the fall of the umno / bn led gomen in 1 way or another come GE13 the latest
"Rules are Rules". Whether you like it or not...it's purely up to you.
However if you want to remain in Malaysia & be a Malaysian, then, you MUST respect the Sultan.
If you dare to oppose what I've stated, pls. feel free to make any OFFENSIVE statements citing disrespect/hatred towards the Sultan. I''ll then see how an old man like you will suffer inside JAIL for Sedition/Defamation.
I bet you lack the COURAGE to do so, huh??? As usual, talk alot but no action type of OLD MAN.
However, THEFT is NOT the correct word to say. Since Sultan Azlan Shah had given his consent for BN to rule Perak, then, surely it's NOT THEFT. --------------------------------
I can only feel sorry for a kampong boy mentality like you. TO YOU, LIKE ALL UMNO SCUMBAGS, HONOR AND INTEGRITY, have no meaning in your life...just being cheats and robbers are your aims and purpose in life. If you have no human deceny, don't try to act like an arrogant ass shielded by an immoral govt.
Your comment at 4.11pm denotes the underlying tone of your intentions here.
Your central argument of the Sultan's prerogative would be valid if he's an absolute monarch. But we have a constitutional monarchy enjoined through a parliamentary democracy.
The Perak sultan reportedly didn't wish to 'explain' his reasons as to what transpired during February 09 therefore can YOU clarify where all the five 'reasons' originated from. Are you not being inflammatory by suggesting that these are the sultan's 'reasons'?
The alternative request to seek a state re-election would have absolved the Perak sultan from interfering with the governance of the state i.e. remaining above politics. Nizar has been consistent on this request from Day 1.
The Monarchs may be above politics but not above the law i.e. the Federal Constitution. It's an established fact that the Sultan did not have the legal authority to sack Nizar which can only be done through a floor vote during an assembly.
Appointing Zambry as an MB, compounds the problem further. Hence, the courts are deliberating on the issue. Will you now conclude that the judiciary are equally disrespectful to the monarchs?
You expect others to put up credible arguments to support their case but your "Perakians are merely SERVANTS & SLAVES to the Sultan. The Sultan is the MASTER, while, Perakians are SLAVES. Slaves only listens to their Masters" makes you and the Perak sultan look rather stupid, doesn't it.
The sultan of Perak,certainly has the prerogative to choose the people he sees fit to rule his state,agreed.But to dismiss a democratically elected govt by contravening article 72(1)goes beyond my comprehension.
Even if the sultan feels that the PR govt in Perak is not fit to rule,then he must explain to the electorate his reasons for doing so.In the same breath,how come our learned Sultan can approve UMNO/BN to accept 2 of the 3 reps whose honesty and character were debauched by the prospect of easy money,means they have a case of corruption and also soliciting sexual favours,therefore paving the way for the present unavoidable conundrum in the silver state?I have earlier criticized, PR for choosing such individuals without integrity as their reps.
Your asinine verbiage reflects poorly on your self.How, if the sultan was wrong in his decision?After all His Excellency is also a human being,a mortal,cant he go wrong?Why did Mahathir chose to clip the wings of the sultans then?Are you living in a flinstone era,coming up with such archaic notion?
And those who call for the death of another fellow human ,just because you cant agree with that person's view is pusillaminous to say the least.
Zorro,if I were you I will not even bother replying such low life.
support zorro 100%!!! May PR wins, f*** off bn goons. bn arrogantly wasted a lot of people's money & time. perakians need new fresh election. GO PR!!!!!
Agree with u Zoro..since when Ruler dislike PR. Since when Ruler ban PR?.merely TOKz ban PR as he is obvious UMNO goons.
He seems to think we rakyat Perak are servants & has no right to chose..no right of democracy.
Tokz Seems to think corruption is the right way to rule the State. Thinking since we are mere slaves & servants..there no need for election or rakyat says.
Just to state why is UMNO so stupid that they should 1st of all vote MB off & speaker away during the assembly then get ruler consent for new MB endorsement. Due to stupidity & power hunger they were outplay by smarter more professional bunch, who goes by law...instead of mere force..like UMNO abused the use of arm forces, iSA, MACC, the court.
What UMNO does is outsmart by the other party. UMNO is expert to deviate the facts..& play racist.
Good for them. Backdoor take over & abusing power & $ is the right thing for them. Is right for TOKz for sure..who insist we are merely servants & slaves to UMNOs.
Sultan said that he is above politic, but never did he mentioned that he is above the law. Agreed that the sultan of Perak has the prerogative to choose the people he sees fit to rule his state but to dismiss a democratically elected govt by contravening article 72(1)goes beyond my comprehension. Melayu Umno will never agree with this, especially Tokz and the like. So, ignore them and keep on attacking. When judiciary, legislative and executive system, including the monarchy system at both state and federal are under the control or influence of Umno (the Ketuanan Melayu, and I am melayu but Melayu PAS), then what is it to argue. Our power is only during election day. So make use of that wisely. We continue with Penanti. We may not win the country (for as long as Sabah and Sarawak still supporting BN, and god will getting less and less) but we can win the rakyat's heart.
It is very obvious that this tok kok tokz is trying to provoke Zorro to write something seditious. The product of that 3 in 1 Dr. Guys, just ignore this worm, Zorro already hinted to him that he can go fly his kite somewhere else but he shamelessly keeps coming back. It is haram to enter someone's house when not welcome.
I hope ALL progressive Malaysian democrats emerge from the comforts of our homes on Thurs 7th May to show our deep concern and displeasure at the way this constitutional crisis has been handled - unresolved and plaguing us to a near 3 months now.
I find it sad and most disappointing to note that while the Sultan of Perak is taking a sordid stand, many of us have also lost faith in our Malaysian courts. There also seems to be too much politicking on both sides of the divide!
The state has been and still is without a proper legitimate state government. Perakians now find we have had enough of all these nonsense and demand that our wishes and views be taken seriously! Perak's Public Service must be made to execute its rightful duties without fear or favour to address the grave economic problems now threatening the well-being of everyone in the state.
As for the 3 froggies - Hee Yit Foong, Mohamad Osman and Jamaluddin Radzi who were the initial cause of this constitutional impasse and have since been in hiding - too disgraced to even show up at their constituencies, we should demand that they return their salaries for non-performance of duty the past 3 months! It's tax-payers money damnit, we want back!
I think you are consciously trying to play with people emotions... I think let the courts decide on who is the legitimate MB.
We must draw the lines between critics and hatred.. urging people to hate the DYMM Sultan is surely not on..
Most Malays are still loyal with the royals, and allowing comments that continuously belittling the monarchy would suppress some section of the people level of tolerance..
Accusing those political crosses a thief is an equal accusation for Anwar Ibrahim when he first suggested the crossovers from BN to PR..
Every time the excuse is the sultan supported them,we the ordinary folks cannot whisper a word at all or else they shout aloud DERHAKA!KHIANAT!We are actually nothing in the eyes of all these SuperBeings.
TOKZ, I JUST CANNOT TAKE IT ANY MORE. YOU ARE DOING YOUR BEST TO BAIT ZORRO AND GET HIM IN TROUBLE WITH THE AUTHORITY. YOU ARE A REAL DAMN BASTARD. FUCK OFF!!!!!!IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS BLOG. GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. SORRY ZORRO A BIT OF VULGARITY, MY APOLOGY
Hey guys, do you all know - 1. what's an implant? 2. or a virus? 3. or the Mexican swine flu? These tell-tale signs are writeen all over with TOKZ. Go figure. malsia1206
Hi Zorro! This Tokz guy is just a little too dense - he doesn't get it that it is a question of rule of law, and not Rule of Monarchs. He doesn't understand that nobody is above the law, and that the Sultan's desires or words aren't the law. How then do do speak of this matter to him?
He doesn't understand that Malaysia is a constitutional Monarchy, which is bound by the Federal & State Constitution. When people don't understand these simple things, it can be difficult to talk to them - especially when they try to provoke you into condemning the Sultan, instead of the "agent provocateurs".
He's here to just provoke you lah - remember that there are guys who claim to be non-partisan and "don't sympathise with Umno" prowling around. After Azalina's flop, the anak Yatim has taken over now. Some call them trolls or troopers .... Cheers mate!
BTW zorro, I think this guy is in love with you - I notice that he keeps coming back despite being scorned .... don't be surprised if he makes a pass at you one of these days! ;-D
People, thanks for your concern. Yes TOKZ is baiting but this fish is a special fish and very discerning about baits. He does not like cacing, so he will not take the bait.
Doc....he cant make a pass at me...I will be able to sniff him out from a distance. These types have a peculiar odour that even rats will not sniff at.
ahh.. forgot to mention, i'm a 'Lambor' man, dad from kanan and my mom from kiri, my mom got just in time to Ipoh hospital 37 years ago and so I'm 'ipoh' mali...
pic: a bodohland creation
65 comments:
Oh My GOD!!!
There are still wankers who are talking about this issue. Can these idiots forget about this entire episode???
This topic is LONG closed & BN is the worthy STATE GOVT of Perak. Even Sultan Azlan Shah had spoken.
Pakatan Rakyat & its' supporters are merely BIG TIME SORE LOSERS cos' they are still bitching about things of which are considered HISTORY.
Hey bro, blog something NEW & RELEVANT, will ya??? This topic is OUTDATED already.
AWAS! bn cant beat PR in any buy-elections so its 'tragedy' = to break up the PR into 3 : AWAS !!
Nizar vs zombie = back to high court
= delaying verdict = jeopardize the 7/5 session = after 13/5 : dissolve
assembly automatically = election for whole perak = !!??
TOKZ....to you it may be history but THEFT always leaves an indelible mark in history. Go read somewhere else if you do not like the revisit history.
Hi Zorro,
Noted your comments with thanks.
However, THEFT is NOT the correct word to say. Since Sultan Azlan Shah had given his consent for BN to rule Perak, then, surely it's NOT THEFT.
For Pakatan Rakyat to keep insisting & still fantasizing themselves as the State Govt., then, that is what I call THEFT. In view to be precise....it's "THEFT IN FANTASY".
To those who still think BN had robbed off the freedom & rights of all fellow PERAKIANS, then, you're in TROUBLE cos' you're being "BIADAP dan DERHAKA" to our highly respected Sultan. You can be arrested for DEFAMATION & SEDITION for insulting the Sultan's decision.
Please respect the Sultan & more importantly please accept the TRUE FACT. The fact is that BN is the WORTHY & VALID State Govt of Perak.
"People who accepts FACTS are called HUMANS, while, people who can't accept FACTS are called DREAMERS"
So....which are you???
Hi Zorro,
Noted your comments with thanks.
However, THEFT is NOT the correct word to say. Since Sultan Azlan Shah had given his consent for BN to rule Perak, then, surely it's NOT THEFT.
For Pakatan Rakyat to keep insisting & still fantasizing themselves as the State Govt., then, that is what I call THEFT. In view to be precise....it's "THEFT IN FANTASY".
To those who still think BN had robbed off the freedom & rights of all fellow PERAKIANS, then, you're in TROUBLE cos' you're being "BIADAP dan DERHAKA" to our highly respected Sultan. You can be arrested for DEFAMATION & SEDITION for insulting the Sultan's decision.
Please respect the Sultan & more importantly please accept the TRUE FACT. The fact is that BN is the WORTHY & VALID State Govt of Perak.
"People who accepts FACTS are called HUMANS, while, people who can't accept FACTS are called DREAMERS"
So....which are you???
The back door slams
It is hard not to see
The way Zombie and gang
Strutting it all the way
There is no law to them
They go about it as they will
Perakians will not forget
The day it happened
It got us all angry
Judges sit
Breathing fire
The Perakians never run
They will unleash it
When the day comes
Daulat Tuanku
We sing his name
When the day to walk the talk
We got the off key in our ears
Some may want to move on
Forget about it let the back door swings
For those who voted in Perak
It isn't the way we wanted
Unlike Tokz & the history Perak UMNO's...I'm a local boy is still very very keen with Perak Situation.
I'm concern of UMNO's cruelty & forceful backdoor take over. Only UMNO pals trying to forget the past sin.
I'm concern of the State now run by the pirated MB Zamry & his goons.
It will be big loss if State disposed Camry, but big GAIN if Zamry been disposed instead.
It is Perak crisis that open up many rakyats eye how nasty & power hungy this UMNO's BN is.
Perakians wants justice, but UMNO is the LAW.
Perak wants thier own choice of MB..its rakyat power not UMNO's.
If Tokz wants to forget..please go read elsewhere. This blog is not for the blind & corrupt & evil.
PERAK crisis is still close to my heart. I hve enuff with UMNO's BN.
ipohHUNK
It is gonna be a mayhem in the Perak assembly, gonna be a mega drama, a musical chair. This is what happens when we are myopic and self centered without a greater vision for Malaysia.
Tokz tok lots of cock.
BN is worthy and valid? hahahahahaha...
For goodness sake Tokz who toks cock, go back to your BN goons site.
Tokz,
This is not only theft, this is piracy -- hijacking on the high seas.
Tokz,
Have you ever heard of the rule of law and as far as Malaysia is concerned, NOBODY is above the rule of the highest law of the land - ask Dr Mahathir if you still believe otherwise.
What happened in Perak had not conformed with the rule of law and if the Courts are where justice is served, then, what happened in Perak is tantamount to a coup and coups are actions which are against the Constitution of Malaysia.
So, before you formulated any of your conclusion of the outcome of this event, please get to know the real facts, the right facts first instead of being so easily smittened by the MSM reports and their lies!
Most of the time, people arrived at conclusions because of the information they received. If these information are incorrect or are just blatant propagandas, then, decisions arrived at are skewed and therefore incorrect.
If you believed whatever MSM had reported all these while, then, I wish you well - for to behave like an ostrich burying its head in the sand and assuming everything is alright is not something our new generation of well informed rakyats will ever accept.
We gets our information from across the various sources available and if you still insist on your version of events, then, nothing could be done for people like you ...because ostriches are not know for their intelligence!
Hi Anonymous (2:40pm),
I've NO LOVE for UMNO & that's for sure.
However, it's WRONG to put the blame solely on UMNO. Pls. DO NOT forget that Sultan Azlan Shah himself had also agreed to BN forming the NEW State Govt. in Perak.
As much as most Pakatan Rakyat leaders & supporters would wanna point their finger at UMNO but it's only FAIR if we all look at the entire scenario on a LEVEL PERSPECTIVE.
The rejection of Sultan Azlan Shah towards Pakatan Rakyat being the State Govt. must have its' own reason. Perhaps, Sultan is extremely upset with how those inexperienced leaders from Pakatan Rakyat were handling things in Perak (corruption, power abuse, disrespect to the Royalty, etc)
We can ofcourse insult UMNO but we MUST NEVER insult the Sultan. I believe there are MORE DIRT behind why Sultan Azlan rejected Pakatan Rakyat from his highness State in Perak.
P.S. - Please learn to see things that are OUT OF THE BOX. Refrain from being NARROW MINDED as it gets us NO WHERE.
I am glad BN took over Perak.
I am glad sultan azlan did what's right.
I am glad zorro cant get this issue out of his mind. It is eating him bit by bit.
Go drink more beer at press club zorro.
drown your sorrow.
you might die tomorrow.
you no longer young zorro.
by ponitac
Hi Anonymous (3;28pm),
Well written but I'm SAD to say your opinion lacks WEIGHT. I can see you're the type who are extremely AGAINST mainstream media. However, I gotta respect your choice as it's your freedom & rights.
You have been reading to many NONSENSE NEWS from alternative news websites. So much so, you're menatlity had been manipulated by these incorrect news.
As much as this debate can go on till year 2020, the FACT is that BN is now the VALID State Govt of Perak. Pakatan Rakyat's days in Perak is now HISTORY.
No point talking about an issue of which WILL NOT change. Didn't you hear Sultan Azlan Shah saying "Selamat Tinggal Pakatan Rakyat"???
You're nevertheless a DREAMER dreaming in Pakatan Rakyat's fantasy. Hello..."Wake up", bro!!!
Sad but true, I agree with what TOKZ have commented.
Most of us hates UMNO & this is the fact. However, Sultan of Perak too had voiced his dissatisfaction with Pakatan Rakyat Govt. in Perak.
If UMNO were the only one creating monkey troubles in Perak, then, I understand. However, this is not the case when I found out even the Sultan is going against Pakatan Rakyat in Perak.
There must be something dodgy that is not exposed to 'the rakyat' yet. I assume Pakatan Rakyat had made Sultan Azlan Shah snapped his patience.
Hi Anonymous (3.42pm),
Your poem might be HARSH but it's really FUNNY & CREATIVE though.
I don't understand why this chap by the name of TOKZ insist of mentioning the Sultan when in actual fact,it is just a stamping pad for the legislative assembly .The Sultan is just a mere symbol and the speaker of the legislative assembly of the state is the supreme figure. Go and read the Article 72 (1) and it stated clearly that you could not question or charge any legislative Assembly of any state in the country.Infact,BN is a pirate robbing the legislative government of the PR and are afraid of the Perak people who are demanding to dissolve the state assembly for a by-election.
Blind loyalty to and respect for hierarchy is no longer viable, and don't give me all that krap that "it's in our culture". Loyalty and respect must be earned. We are living in the 21st century!
Heya Tokzzzzz
Well if the Sultan says thats its BN's state..then why do we perakian vote or for that matter why does anyone vote la? Then just get all the sultans to appoint their own CM and MB and then lets see what happens.
By the way..me and some major perakian didnt vote for BN to rule our beloved and currently robbed- out state!!
Its still relevant...and shall be until justice found.
SameSame
Hello ZORRO,
Why are there so many idiots who are still complaining about this issue??? Can't they accept TRUE FACTS???
It's SAD to notice there are abundance of dudes here who love fantasizing over something is has PASSED & WILL NEVER RETURNED.
Can I offer to buy these dreamers an ALARM CLOCK each??? Hope it will WAKE THEM up & admit REALITY.
Anon3:42pm. Try to get your facts correct when you come in here. I do not go to the press club now. I go to the Wharf where fish is plentiful and where singles abound. Howzat? How lah to die tomorrow? I am only 69 and contemplating 70. I have many more years to go because I mix with healthy people with healthy minds. How lah to die tomorrow? Anyway, you are free to wish that I die tomorrow.Peace to men of goodwill and piss to men who wish evil intent on others. I hope you are happy now. Smell the coffee and have healthy friends....do a lot of fishing and meet singles...macallan, old puteney, singletons....u dont know what you are missing when you don't have healthy friends like I have.
TOKZ must have hope that the whole nation are idiots so that his pals/umno will go about doing what they wish. Don't talk about derhaka, where were you when mahatir clip the royalty wings. I'm for fresh elections, why not bn who until today claims that they have the support of the people.
tokz who toks cock,
"We can ofcourse insult UMNO but we MUST NEVER insult the Sultan. I believe there are MORE DIRT behind why Sultan Azlan rejected Pakatan Rakyat from his highness State in Perak."
Dissolve and let the people of Perak decide then. That's the only constitutional way. I wish you have better knowledge about the law. It's not insulting like the way you have put it. So stop trying to provoke like the BN goons have. If the Sultan says stealing is right then everyone should abide to it? Can't be argued? If arguing, that means insulting the Sultan even though the law says stealing is against the law?
Santa....no need alarm clock...the reality is that the people of Perak were robbed by devious machinations and supported by the ruler.
Anon3:49.....I have never heard the Sultan say anything about misrule by PR. Did anyone hear this? Prostitution and whoring took place, special draw money was used.
But the ruler might have been humiliated when Nizar said: I beg to disagree!
To Anonymous (3:59pm),
You mentioned "Dissolve and let the people of Perak decide then".
Well it's easy to say BUT difficult to execute. Why am I saying it's difficult???? Becos':
1) The Sultan had BANNED Pakatan Rakyat from Perak.
2) The Sultan DOES NOT want another election becos' it's a waste of time & money.
3) The Sultan thinks that BN is a far better State Govt. than Pakatan Rakyat.
4) The Sultan doesn't wish to see & hear anymore rubbish about Pakatan Rakyat in Perak becos' Pakatan have no sense of respect for MONARCHY RULE.
5) Perakians are merely SERVANTS & SLAVES to the Sultan. The Sultan is the MASTER, while, Perakians are SLAVES. Slaves only listens to their Masters.
Hi ZORRO,
I agree that NIZAR might have himiliated the Sultan when he NIZAR said "I beg to differ".
For this, Pakatan Rakyat deserved to be stripped off their position as State Govt.
Malaysia have NO PLACE for those who disrespect our beloved Sultan.
Anon 4:14pm....are you saying that the sultan is infallible. What he edicts cannot be questioned? Only GOD is infallible. To be beloved one must be loved. Is he loved?Respect cannot be demanded, it must be earned.
Hahaha Tokz who toks cock,
It's me again, the 3.59 anon. I guess you've made your point and said it all.
To the Perakians, am so sorry that you are slaves to the Sultan. Thanks for reminding people this is exactly the kind of system runs by Umno goons. No wonder i started seeing so many Vehicle Plate No. starts with A in Selangor these days.
i) sultan has NO power to ask MB nizar to resign. sultan only takes what is given to him. this is not the feufalistic era. he can tegur, he can advise, he can recommend; but he has NO executive/legislative/judiciary power. zilch. tak ada. not even 1%. zero.
ii) MB nizar's govt is still the valid one.
iii) "memohon untuk derhaka" is just to salvage whatever little 'face' left of the sultan at that point in time.
NOW its war !! **
**(not real armed war, and not with the palace. it's WAR between PR/rakyat vs UMNO/BN !!)
uncle zorro and his band of brothers, we netizens support you all ALL THE F%(*&#$(#KING WAY!!!
4RAKYAT.
TOKZ Just to inform you this single malt territory go have a chivas with your idol,cheers master.
uncle zorro
pls be careful wt this tokz and friends, they r trapping u, careful pls. they want us to say things then they can charge for this and thst
Hi ZORRO,
GOD is NOT a human so let's leave GOD out of this topic.
Where else for the respect for Sultan..."It's a MUST" (like it or not).
The Sultan is ABOVE the law & no one can question his decisions.
I find it a SHAME for a young man like me to teach an OLD FELLA like you about understanding something called "RESPECT".
I bet your son, daughter & grandchildren doesn't know what the HELL is RESPECT all about too. Perhaps, this runs inside your family (a KURANG AJAR type of broken family)
Dear TOKZ
NO ONE and i mean NO ONE is a slave and YOU are the master of your own self!
And NO ONE, and i mean no one is above the LAW !!!
Hey, those of you who dont agree with whatever Zorro writes.. oke, oke, BN is the BEST. Is the most VALID, the FAIREST and the most BELOVED.
ENOUGH.
Zorro, we'll show 'em and the world what is mightier than money this coming 7th May!
I'll be there.
With a rakyat's heart as my weapon.
"TOKZ said...
To Anonymous (3:59pm),
You mentioned "Dissolve and let the people of Perak decide then".
Well it's easy to say BUT difficult to execute. Why am I saying it's difficult???? Becos':
1) The Sultan had BANNED Pakatan Rakyat from Perak.
2) The Sultan DOES NOT want another election becos' it's a waste of time & money.
3) The Sultan thinks that BN is a far better State Govt. than Pakatan Rakyat.
4) The Sultan doesn't wish to see & hear anymore rubbish about Pakatan Rakyat in Perak becos' Pakatan have no sense of respect for MONARCHY RULE.
5) Perakians are merely SERVANTS & SLAVES to the Sultan. The Sultan is the MASTER, while, Perakians are SLAVES. Slaves only listens to their Masters."
thank you umno / bn bozo.. ure a dumb ass for telling the whole of msia wat u umno /bn leeches think of us perakians.... rais yatim must hav give u umno /bn bloggers a real good makan malam huh...yaya buat kerja...wat u've just written will be known to all perakians n bear in mind u might just hav contributed big time to the fall of the umno / bn led gomen in 1 way or another come GE13 the latest
Hi Zorro,
"Rules are Rules". Whether you like it or not...it's purely up to you.
However if you want to remain in Malaysia & be a Malaysian, then, you MUST respect the Sultan.
If you dare to oppose what I've stated, pls. feel free to make any OFFENSIVE statements citing disrespect/hatred towards the Sultan. I''ll then see how an old man like you will suffer inside JAIL for Sedition/Defamation.
I bet you lack the COURAGE to do so, huh??? As usual, talk alot but no action type of OLD MAN.
TOKZ said...
Hi Zorro,
Noted your comments with thanks.
However, THEFT is NOT the correct word to say. Since Sultan Azlan Shah had given his consent for BN to rule Perak, then, surely it's NOT THEFT.
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I can only feel sorry for a kampong boy mentality like you. TO YOU, LIKE ALL UMNO SCUMBAGS, HONOR AND INTEGRITY, have no meaning in your life...just being cheats and robbers are your aims and purpose in life.
If you have no human deceny, don't try to act like an arrogant ass shielded by an immoral govt.
In GOD I TRUST and BELIEVE...NOT ANOTHER FELLOW HUMAN BEING...EVEN, A ROYALTY!
this time let them have the meeting under the tree. lol.
the speaker should send out notice stating the bdg is closed due to maintenance in progress.
very sad tokz is slave of human, i'am slave of Allah
tokz said:
"I believe there are MORE DIRT behind why Sultan Azlan rejected Pakatan Rakyat from his highness State in Perak."
i must agree with you on that tokz. absolutely tokz. anyway tell us whose dirt? and what are those dirt?
by the way who wants a "clean" government that practice transparency?
status quo must remain - right tokz?
if i am peasant i talk socialism.
when i am an elite i say to hell with socialism and welcome guided democracy.
so where are you tokz?
is our blood money flowing into the palaces !!??
TOKZ,
Your comment at 4.11pm denotes the underlying tone of your intentions here.
Your central argument of the Sultan's prerogative would be valid if he's an absolute monarch. But we have a constitutional monarchy enjoined through a parliamentary democracy.
The Perak sultan reportedly didn't wish to 'explain' his reasons as to what transpired during February 09 therefore can YOU clarify where all the five 'reasons' originated from. Are you not being inflammatory by suggesting that these are the sultan's 'reasons'?
The alternative request to seek a state re-election would have absolved the Perak sultan from interfering with the governance of the state i.e. remaining above politics. Nizar has been consistent on this request from Day 1.
The Monarchs may be above politics but not above the law i.e. the Federal Constitution. It's an established fact that the Sultan did not have the legal authority to sack Nizar which can only be done through a floor vote during an assembly.
Appointing Zambry as an MB, compounds the problem further. Hence, the courts are deliberating on the issue. Will you now conclude that the judiciary are equally disrespectful to the monarchs?
You expect others to put up credible arguments to support their case but your "Perakians are merely SERVANTS & SLAVES to the Sultan. The Sultan is the MASTER, while, Perakians are SLAVES. Slaves only listens to their Masters" makes you and the Perak sultan look rather stupid, doesn't it.
TOKZ,
The sultan of Perak,certainly has the prerogative to choose the people he sees fit to rule his state,agreed.But to dismiss a democratically elected govt by contravening article 72(1)goes beyond my comprehension.
Even if the sultan feels that the PR govt in Perak is not fit to rule,then he must explain to the electorate his reasons for doing so.In the same breath,how come our learned Sultan can approve UMNO/BN to accept 2 of the 3 reps whose honesty and character were debauched by the prospect of easy money,means they have a case of corruption and also soliciting sexual favours,therefore paving the way for the present unavoidable conundrum in the silver state?I have earlier criticized, PR for choosing such individuals without integrity as their reps.
Your asinine verbiage reflects poorly on your self.How, if the sultan was wrong in his decision?After all His Excellency is also a human being,a mortal,cant he go wrong?Why did Mahathir chose to clip the wings of the sultans then?Are you living in a flinstone era,coming up with such archaic notion?
And those who call for the death of another fellow human ,just because you cant agree with that person's view is pusillaminous to say the least.
Zorro,if I were you I will not even bother replying such low life.
support zorro 100%!!! May PR wins, f*** off bn goons. bn arrogantly wasted a lot of people's money & time. perakians need new fresh election. GO PR!!!!!
Agree with u Zoro..since when Ruler dislike PR. Since when Ruler ban PR?.merely TOKz ban PR as he is obvious UMNO goons.
He seems to think we rakyat Perak are servants & has no right to chose..no right of democracy.
Tokz Seems to think corruption is the right way to rule the State. Thinking since we are mere slaves & servants..there no need for election or rakyat says.
Just to state why is UMNO so stupid that they should 1st of all vote MB off & speaker away during the assembly then get ruler consent for new MB endorsement. Due to stupidity & power hunger they were outplay by smarter more professional bunch, who goes by law...instead of mere force..like UMNO abused the use of arm forces, iSA, MACC, the court.
What UMNO does is outsmart by the other party.
UMNO is expert to deviate the facts..& play racist.
Good for them. Backdoor take over & abusing power & $ is the right thing for them. Is right for TOKz for sure..who insist we are merely servants & slaves to UMNOs.
ipohHUNK
TOKZ (5.17pm),
It's becoming more evident that you're flaming.
What about your own offensive comments at 4.11pm?
Are you 'speaking' on behalf of the Perak sultan?
Sultan said that he is above politic, but never did he mentioned that he is above the law. Agreed that the sultan of Perak has the prerogative to choose the people he sees fit to rule his state but to dismiss a democratically elected govt by contravening article 72(1)goes beyond my comprehension. Melayu Umno will never agree with this, especially Tokz and the like. So, ignore them and keep on attacking. When judiciary, legislative and executive system, including the monarchy system at both state and federal are under the control or influence of Umno (the Ketuanan Melayu, and I am melayu but Melayu PAS), then what is it to argue. Our power is only during election day. So make use of that wisely. We continue with Penanti. We may not win the country (for as long as Sabah and Sarawak still supporting BN, and god will getting less and less) but we can win the rakyat's heart.
It is very obvious that this tok kok tokz is trying to provoke Zorro to write something seditious. The product of that 3 in 1 Dr. Guys, just ignore this worm, Zorro already hinted to him that he can go fly his kite somewhere else but he shamelessly keeps coming back. It is haram to enter someone's house when not welcome.
I hope ALL progressive Malaysian democrats emerge from the comforts of our homes on Thurs 7th May to show our deep concern and displeasure at the way this constitutional crisis has been handled - unresolved and plaguing us to a near 3 months now.
I find it sad and most disappointing to note that while the Sultan of Perak is taking a sordid stand, many of us have also lost faith in our Malaysian courts. There also seems to be too much politicking on both sides of the divide!
The state has been and still is without a proper legitimate state government. Perakians now find we have had enough of all these nonsense and demand that our wishes and views be taken seriously!
Perak's Public Service must be made to execute its rightful duties without fear or favour to address the grave economic problems now threatening the well-being of everyone in the state.
As for the 3 froggies - Hee Yit Foong, Mohamad Osman and Jamaluddin Radzi who were the initial cause of this constitutional impasse and have since been in hiding - too disgraced to even show up at their constituencies, we should demand that they return their salaries for non-performance of duty the past 3 months! It's tax-payers money damnit, we want back!
Kembalikan 'HAK Rakyat', that's all we ask for!
Pak Cik Zorro,
I think you are consciously trying to play with people emotions... I think let the courts decide on who is the legitimate MB.
We must draw the lines between critics and hatred.. urging people to hate the DYMM Sultan is surely not on..
Most Malays are still loyal with the royals, and allowing comments that continuously belittling the monarchy would suppress some section of the people level of tolerance..
Accusing those political crosses a thief is an equal accusation for Anwar Ibrahim when he first suggested the crossovers from BN to PR..
Let us not be selective here Pak Cik..
"People who accepts FACTS are called HUMANS, while, people who can't accept FACTS are called DREAMERS"
SO WHAT, I AM A HUMAN DREAMER? AND I, A HUMAN, HAPPENS TO DREAM THAT SOME THIEVES STOLE THE PERAK STATE FROM THE RAKYAT.
Every time the excuse is the sultan supported them,we the ordinary folks cannot whisper a word at all or else they shout aloud DERHAKA!KHIANAT!We are actually nothing in the eyes of all these SuperBeings.
TOKZ, I JUST CANNOT TAKE IT ANY MORE. YOU ARE DOING YOUR BEST TO BAIT ZORRO AND GET HIM IN TROUBLE WITH THE AUTHORITY. YOU ARE A REAL DAMN BASTARD. FUCK OFF!!!!!!IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS BLOG. GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. SORRY ZORRO A BIT OF VULGARITY, MY APOLOGY
Hey guys, do you all know -
1. what's an implant?
2. or a virus?
3. or the Mexican swine flu?
These tell-tale signs are writeen all over with TOKZ. Go figure.
malsia1206
Hi Zorro!
This Tokz guy is just a little too dense - he doesn't get it that it is a question of rule of law, and not Rule of Monarchs.
He doesn't understand that nobody is above the law, and that the Sultan's desires or words aren't the law. How then do do speak of this matter to him?
He doesn't understand that Malaysia is a constitutional Monarchy, which is bound by the Federal & State Constitution.
When people don't understand these simple things, it can be difficult to talk to them - especially when they try to provoke you into condemning the Sultan, instead of the "agent provocateurs".
He's here to just provoke you lah - remember that there are guys who claim to be non-partisan and "don't sympathise with Umno" prowling around. After Azalina's flop, the anak Yatim has taken over now. Some call them trolls or troopers ....
Cheers mate!
BTW zorro,
I think this guy is in love with you - I notice that he keeps coming back despite being scorned .... don't be surprised if he makes a pass at you one of these days!
;-D
Anon9:04pm. You said: We must draw the lines between critics and hatred.. urging people to hate the DYMM Sultan is surely not on..
Tell me where I urged people to hate the sultan.
People, thanks for your concern. Yes TOKZ is baiting but this fish is a special fish and very discerning about baits. He does not like cacing, so he will not take the bait.
Doc....he cant make a pass at me...I will be able to sniff him out from a distance. These types have a peculiar odour that even rats will not sniff at.
TOKZ,
Not all Sultans are bad, thus the Malay saying -
"...Raja adil Raja disembah; Raja zalim Rajah disanggah!..."Equally, not all Malays are as dumb as you, TOKZ !
Tiada ma'af bagi you! :))
ahh.. forgot to mention, i'm a 'Lambor' man, dad from kanan and my mom from kiri, my mom got just in time to Ipoh hospital 37 years ago and so I'm 'ipoh' mali...
'we r all slaves of sultans' ? ??
hahahahaha....slaves ? ...?? hahahah
hahahaha...?? hahahahahah ...hahaha
hahahaha...??hahahahah???hahahahahah!
this fish dun like cacing ah ? pls try 'chi-yoke' , ok !?
the 'swine flu' will intervene !
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