Nobody mentioned blood at scene of the plunge. These sequence of photos show no spash of blood after a 9 storey plunge. Was Teo able to break his fall, realised that he was still alive and subsequently died of shock. That would be a mother of all spins.
Why would Teo commit suicide on the day when he was to register his marriage? Let's wait for the spin masters to unravel this macabre freefall.
Teo, as claimed by MACC was just a witness. He was not accused and was allowed to go home. Why would he jump? Or was he transported? If there was no blood on impact, there was also no evidence of a coca-cola wash to rid the scene of blood which would be consistent with a fall from 9 storeys.
Why couldn't his boss Ean unable to contact him. If he was a witness, was his cellphone with him. Was his cellphone in his possession when his body was found?
Last night at around 8:00pm I received a call from someone I can trust. He informed me that there was evidence of Teo being tortured. We await the pathologist(s) post mortem and this time around it had better be the truth and the report guarded against theft.
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The same thing occurred to me when I saw the pix earlier - the non-existent blood splash. One thing's for sure: if the MACC comes around saying they want to "interview" me, I'd make sure I say my goodbyes to my family and sort out my finances first - never know if I'd come back alive.
Another thin is: why no CCTV cameras in MACC? Banks, retail outlets, corporate offices, govt buildings, etc have them but not THE government body that probes corruption. So odd.
A few things we can confirm for certainty -
1. No C4 was used
2. He did not fall in the toilet and broke his head
3. No blood splatter was seen in the vicinity of the body from the alleged fall from the 14th level onto the 4th level rooftop of the adjacent building
The onus and the burden is upon MACC to exculpate themselves from this incident. Not any other way round. Let the spin begin.
Steven Speilberg, are you there and listening for the break story originating form Malaysia to make it into another epic film movie?
malsia1206
I am very very angry
Not only me! I spoke to many and they are too!This fuck-up MACC is the tool of BN,good for nothing!
There is blood lah. Look carefully. There is trail of dark liquid in a small drain-like, originating from his face. Enlarge the picture in word-file and see.
Hope this clarifies.
Uncle B - I posted on this last night, and included an edited picture (blurred out Teo's body). In that picture there does seem what appears to be dried blood close to where the body is (to the left of it, emanating from the face area, downwards then to the left. The original photo can be found here.
I agree that the circumstances don't add up - and yes, they are suspicious. Personally, regardless of whodunnit, I believe that MACC must be held accountable since Teo was in their custody, and the fall (if indeed that's what it was) was from the building where MACC is located. In this regard, I will be putting up a poll really soon - do look out for it.
writestreet!
Of course there wont be any cctv's around,.. or else there will be alot of recordings of "Slip and Fall" incidents.. :D
Dear Zorro,
If this is what happens to a mere witness imagine what horrors awaits suspect! If a mere witness suffers 11 hours of interrogation and subsequently winds up dead, God help the suspect.
http://mvnathan.blogspot.com/
I apologise if I have over reacted over the blood-splash issue. But I am still skeptical considering length of drop, impact of drop from that height. Anyway lets hear from the forensic experts.
The blood thing is a gut-feel from a layman probably brought about by the little revealed by MACC during their press conference.
PAKATAN RAKYAT... wake up la. Your candlelight vigils are a total waste of time. You guys are softies that dont deserve to lead anymore. Stand up for your fallen colleague! Candles and flowers are useless in this fight. Wake up. Im an ordinary citizen... fed up of your candlelight vigils. Sitting around and singing songs. Geez... You look like fools honestly.
Stand up and fight if you believe that injustice has occured.
A Malaysian friend I know years ago who has a relative in the police force once told me this:
If the police has killed their victim in custody, they will push the body down the building so that the death appears as a suicide. This acts as a nice cover up for the police.
The police and interrogators must be made to have a taste of their own medicine ie hope their loved once die "mysteriously" as well or due to the acts of god such as fire or bombing or plane accident. This would be the best.
Such loss of innocent lives stir up feelings of hate and vengeance in laymen.
I feel so sad for Teoh and his family which words cannot describe.
I am a foreigner reading this piece of news with shock!
contrary to popular belief not all jumpers leave blood spatter.. it all depend on where the jumper fell. if its on the head for sure we will pool of blood
on second hand the lack of a blood pool might indicate he already died before "jumping"
i am not a fan of speculations. hopefully the truth will come out
RIP to Mr Teo and condolences to his family member
Why was his trousers ripped? That cannot be caused by the fall. Was somebody holding him by the trousers before it unexpectedly ripped and he fell?
Was he threatened with being dropped to coerce a false confession from him and it went too far?
Whatever it is, MACC's explanation is pure rubbish. A person does not stay and snooze at a hated place after interrogation by Gestapos when his car is in the carpark!
Better check if he was LIWATED before being thrown out!
RIP , MR Teo.
But few things questionable..why is there no CCTV for such large building? Why is he been interogate till almost 4am?
Why is he still allow loitering (as claimed by MACC)& spend a nite instead at home for to prepare its marriage registration?
Why is there no security in the office?
Why is there so many mysterious death lately.
ipohHUNK
it's difficult to conceal time and cause of the death, if there;s no cover up in the post motem. however, i'm more curious during the time span for 3am (or 6am) to 130pm why Teo is not located. Why there's no scream reported when he plunged his death, if what the director said is true that he's still alive at 6am.
A fall like that is the best CONCEALMENT for broken bones(or ribs) which could be resulted from the alleged torure by MACC(Mati ACCident). There's no distinction between PDRM and MACC, they're the same org, tainted by the same fauna!
MACC has shown it's true colours as a tool of oppression, corruption, torture and harbinger of death. MACC and PDRM are the tools of evil.
The son of the MACC head, despite being convicted in an Adelaide court, is still employed as a pilot with MAS. Why did the MACC ignore this?
Many lulz people around here..
1.) OBVIOUSLY, his RIGHT leg is BROKEN, how can he ever walk if he was still alive after "being thrown" (as many of you suggest) from 9th storey.
2.) Nobody will ever wipe on their own "poop" onto their own face, his body would probably buried, burned, or c4'ed, or whatever you can guest if MACC has any motive to kill this man.
3.) Btw, MACC officer has not generally been phisically tough trained unlike cops, they were only trained to trace evidence, accounting, psychology, and such witch would use mainly intelligence, and not violence. And they are just like any office boy, sitting inside aircond room, doing paper work and such thing.
4.) I think MACC does not benefits whatsoever from killing this man, so as BN or Government. Please do suggest what does these parties benefit of his death? I couldn't think of any. In facts, they should be knowing that a death of opposition party member would certainly be speculated as their doing.
5.) Since he is a witness, guess yourself who will ever benefits from his death? The suspects of the fraud cases of course, which is an unknown.
6.) Oh well, Im sienz of reading all this bullshit, let the cops do their job, anyway, wouldn't you ever know whether that cop vote for BN or PR anyway, Police is an independent institution, mean that, Gov does not have any right to allow or disallow, to cancel or to delay, or to interrupt or even touch any of police cases.
7.) I seriously wonder why when BN ofc got caught by cops or MACC or whatever, then "some" people would prolly say, "Serve him right." But when "some" other parties ofc got caught, they will say, "This is CORRUPTION, this is MADNESS, this is blablabla.." yaya2, for people like me who practice FREE THINKING, those people are just a LAME ASS, GROW UP LULZ. BE HONEST!! I only sees that your ONLY fight is a fight to bring your enemy down, that's all, i dont see anything else.
Btw, Condolences to his family member and all his relative.
Anon 3:19pm....I am sorry I have to ask: How old are you because we do not allow juveniles under 10 to make comments here. Give me a better reason to believe you.
But it is good of you to convey your condolence to the family.
PAKATAN RAKYAT!!
NOW IS THE TIME TO GO INTO 7TH GEAR. NO MORE JUST TALKING (IN WHICH YOU ARE GOOD AT). ACTION IS NEEDED RIGHT NOW. PR GOR REPS IN PARLIAMENT, REPS IN STATES, PR HAVE THE SUPPORT FROM A LOT OF MALAYSIANS..PLEASE ACT NOW...
P/S - NEED I TO REMIND AGAIN THAT ONE OF OUR COMRadE DIED SUSPICIOUSLY YESTERDAY?? OR YOU WAITING ONLY YOUR WIFE , HUSBAND, SONS, DAUGHTERS ETC TO BE BEATEN OLNLY YOU WILL ACT? HAAA DSAI, LKS, KS, TGAH, TGNA, LGE ??? WHAT KIND OF LEadERS ARE YOU ALL? LETTING DOWN YOUR FOLLOWERS....PLEASE DON'T JUST TALK...ACT NOW. FOR GODSAKE THE GUY IS ABOUT TO GET MARRIED....
AND DSAI, PLEASE REMEMBER HOW THE RAKYAT STOOD UP FOR YOU DURING THE REFORMASI TIME. ARE YOU UP TO IT TO RE-PAY THE RAKYAT AND STAND UP FOR THE LATE TEOH. IF NOT, PTUIIII..PLEASE RESIGN AND GO BACK TO YOUR LECTURING IN THE U.S.
ACT NOW!
Long time ago, we witnessed a man plunged to his death, nine-storey high.
Many broken limbs and his skull cracked open. But there was no blood.
Teoh's death to me is suspicious whichever way you look at at.
I reckon poor Teo was already dead when his body was flung out through a window. The torn pockets must have happened when the perpetrators of this murder hauled up his body by the seat of his pants to throw him out.
No blood is a dead giveaway that Teo was gone some hours before and the blood would have congealed in the lower parts of the body when rigor mortis sets in.
The gap in MACC's statement between 6.30 a.m. and 1.30 p.m. suggests he was probably dead somewher in between, if not actually at 6.30 a.m. when he was said to be 'sleeping' on the couch in the MACC lobby. CCTV cameras may show the sequence of events.
This young man's death must not be in vain!
How do we know he wasn't already dead when he was seen "sleeping" on the couch? Maybe they were just trying to think of how to get rid of the body in a way that would make it difficult to tell that he had died while under interrogation.
RIP Mr Teoh
I shall pray and transferring merit (Buddhist prayer)to you and hopefully your are re-birth to heaven.
I shall alway remember your selfless and sincerely contribution for the betterment of Malaysia. Loss of words to express and feel hurt.
Let gather at Alor Gajah Melaka to pay our last respect and on his funeral day. To show to BN our concern as Rakyat - what is injustic being done to our fellow innocent Malaysian and we do not wish this to happen one day to us too.
Zorro, can you get this information ie place, map, time or day...
Sorry to trouble you.
Zorro,
You claim that you received info from someone you can trust.
Well I too received word from someone reliable about the whole incident -
Teoh was a key witness for a corruption case against some DAP politicians. He decided to come clean and spill it all.
SOme of the people in DAP that he has implicated were actually king pins of the underworld and triads. He knew that his life will be in danger. That is why he feared leaving the MACC building after interogation as he knew that the king pins knew he was going to come clean. He knew that there were people waiting for him outside, sent by the DAP kingpins. He knew that now his family and soon to be wife was in danger.
He was warned - You talk , you die.. in accordance with the triad code. And he DID talk, but he didnt want to die in the hands of the DAP kingpins, so he decided to end his life in what he felt was a dignified manner.
He committed suicide, but who really forced him to do so? It is the threat to his life from the DAP politicians linked to the underworld that killed him.
I was reliably informed by someone investigating the incident.
The police stations and MACC Hq are more dangerous than the streets. You walked in healthy and alive but come out in a body bag, dead.
I'll take my chances on the streets.
when can we be assured that we are in safe hands when we meet a policeman or a govt officer like MACC?
personally, i feel scared when i see a police man or even a roadblock..i am just worried they will accused me of something i didnt do for money..
same shit with MACC and any other govt office..all are just satans
without doubt, there are many questions raised about the manner of his death. the position of the body, the state of his clothes, the tear on his trousers, the lack of blood etc.. all these do not indicate to me as someone who has fallen from a high building. we need answers!! I hold the MACC accountable.. so far, their explanation is all bunkum and doesnt hold water!!.
i agree with you anonymous. many people here think with their cock instead of their brain. Some could not even looked at the pic carefully before they made comments about 'the lack of blood at the scene'.
BTW...who informed the interrogation ended by 3.30am.....probably his life ended way early at nite, while conspiree plan thier move. Thats why ending at 3.30am is questionable?
ipohHUNK
Who could benefit from his death?
This guy is a key witness to MACC to prosecute those to be charged.
Obviously this young guy knew a lot and must have said a lot the fact that the interview finished very late ( 3.45am )
He was seen still loitering at the building at 6am later.
Why is he still there. afraid to leave the building?
Afraid of the threat from the underworld/triads on all the informations exposed to MACC?
To point finger to MACC is totally absurd. Plus in their own building? eliminating their key witness?
Who would think of that?
You uncle Bernard?
There is no way you can spin this in favour for DAP.
Plus there are cctv in the premises.
So please don't make a fool of yourself, like always...
The Minister Nazri says Teoh jumped???!! MACC says they released him and this guy (who is to be married in a day) chooses not to go home and rest and prep for his wedding but chooses to nap on the couch in Hotel MACC????
This govt lies to its citizens - and who knows - maybe kills its rakyat!
Makes me so so sick!
malaysia boleh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMjYgso2yOg&feature=channel_page
-a foreigner
To the idiot who posted on July 17, 2009 3:19 PM
Pls goto jump from 9th floor before preaching.
We have a number of people die when they are in custody, i wish u will be one of them.
I will express my condolence to your family.
Anon6:04 and 7:21
Go to this link and satisfy yourselves:
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/108710
and sleep well.
Sorry, but as a fence sitter with no political affiliation i think that Anon 7.21 PM does have some valid points.
In the developed countries, scientists have utilized the knowledge of genetics to modify crops and animals. These genetically-modified organisms were initially thought to be beneficial to mankind. But now it has become commonplace that these genetically-modified organisms are potentially dangerous to the environment and to those who consume them. So now there are derogatory terms to describe such genetically-modified organisms as Frankenfoods and Frankenfish.
In Bolehland our politicians have also genetically created a monster. The moribund anti-corruption agency was transformed into a ferocious and violent Commission that everyone at first thought would be good. But hardly a few days of its birth, it has become a Frankenstein monster.
Just like the Frankenfish and Frankenfoods the MACC has now become a FrankenCom. This is a gift from sleepyhead, Abdullah Badawi to the people of Bolehland.
There IS a lot of blood. He had internal injuries and bled through his mouth/nose. You can see where it is running down a groove in the cement and turns left. It even extends out through the lower left corner of the black sheet. You can see it better here, before they brought the plastic sheet: http://mob1900.globat.com/temp/blogpics3/mob1900_macc_murder.jpg
Dear Bernard,
May I suggest that as a show of our respect for the late Teoh Beng Hock and our condemnation of MACC/Police/UNMO etc, we all sound our car horn at 11am on Monday to coincide with the time of his funeral.
Ong
it's claimed that teo released at 3.45am, but it was from the mouth of MACC! imagine they could have claimed the deceased mongol girl never even stepped foot in malaysia, you know what i mean.
just like LGE could have stroke of pen to nullify buah pala eviction, who knows at stroke of pen the time of released from integoration has been .....
No big deal! An Opposition guy is dead or a Mongolian, nobody gives a shit. BN BOLEH!
Hint:
1) No splash of blood after a 9 story fall. Unless your body have no blood or frozen than there will be no splash.
2) Internal bleeding on the nose or mouse. Sign of severe damage on the internal organ and nothing on the outside. Greater damage should be on the outside body to justify any damage to the internal body. This is not consistance of a fall.
3) There is no flow on all the cut. It show that the blood is already clogged. Any cut from a living person would show blood flow, especially after a fall from a high rise building. I believe Teoh is death than is throw out the window.
4) Would you sleep at MACC after being interrogated there?
5) If you spill the bean would you request for protection.
6) If Teoh life is in danger doesn't it make more scene for MACC to protect him since he is a witness.
If you look at the picture, you can see Teoh was lying with his head and body were side by side with pavement.
How could this be possible for a person to jump from high rise building and lying perfectly side by side with pavement?
I have been in the deepest state of disbelief. And Shock. And lotsa questions.
IF I was Teoh's family I would want to know why there was so many hours delay before the body can be viewed
IF it was a straightforward jump, why not let the family view him? Surely the family gets first rights to viewing their beloved?
And why was he interogated until 3-45am? From let's say even 6pm to 3-45, that would be 8 to 9 hours!? And why no lawyer or family allowed to be present. Just to wait for him even?
And why did the papers show Koh Tsu Koon sitting (comforting?) Teoh's parents today instead of Teoh's own boss & colleagues? Is this to imply that the Opposition is not as sympathetic as MCA?
Yeap. The many reasons we DUNNO is what makes this so suspicious. Yeah...I too would THINK there would be a messier death than this when someone falls from a building..even if it's a coupla floors.
I feel so VERY much for Teoh's family & his unborn child. They deserve the truth. Even if the truth does not get out to the public, let the family know.
May Teoh's soul rest in peace
what a shame no forensic experts were called in from abroad.
ask wee choo keong he claimed he know everything!
ask wee choo keong..he know everything !
WE all, NOT only mr.TBH's family, want to know WHY 'there was SOoooooo
many hours delay b4 the body could be viewed !!!!!!!!!!! ' @#$%^&*
IF it's true TBH was released at 3.45am , he would have CALLED the worrying family immediately lo !!!!!!!
macc is 100% RESPONSIBLE coz TBH was still in their charge ...GO after macc @#$%^&* !
y were teoh's belongings still with MACC and handed over only after his death? Y are these belongings not handed over to Teaoh's during his released ard 3+ AM as claimed by MACC? Y the belongings did not fall together with him as some said he jumped or commit suicide himself? I wonder did anyone ever think of this?
Dont waste your time speculating how and when Teoh died, immediately arrest those MACC bastards and charge them with murder. If found guilty, then sentence these MACC bastards to - plunge to death! Just do it - death for death!!
To the idiot who posted on July 17, 2009 3:19 PM
I WISH THAT CILAKAK WHO POSTED THAT MSG WILL ROT IN HELL TOO.
Nazri is not just a fucktard, he is a super-fucktard. Ans so if Muhyi-Dickhead.
someone wants his costly Sony handphone & purse & money TOO !!??
Shallow and lack of exposure of people or maybe he's a die hard supporter of a political elite to give such comments by
July 17, 2009 3:15 PM
Anonymous said...
Many lulz people around here..
Speaking like you know how MACC operates? MACC consist of ex police which aren't trained as you claimed to do paper work and etc. they are people who have abused their by force and violence. Follow Tan Boon Wah's statement on the interrogation style conducted by the MACC.
A waste of time to correct the remaining of your bullshit. Pain in the ass. Go read up before you make a fool of yourself.
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