Thursday, June 21, 2012


To All Retired Armed Forces Officers,

You may wish to know that under Section 22 of the RELA Act 2012, an act which has been passed by Parliament and which will come into force with effect from 22 June 2012, RELA will be using the established Army rank structure.

Many members of RAFOC and other retired Armed Forces officers have expressed their “objection” to the use of the Army rank structure by RELA. They are not against the RELA Act 2012 per se but only objected to the use of the Army rank structure, which has been exclusively belonged to the Malaysian Army since 1933 and used by armies world-wide.

Although there are one or two organizations such as Civil Defence, Security Guards etc. that use the Army rank structure but their use have not been legalized as such. Their use is therefore “illegal” or not authorized. The RELA Act 2012 "legalised" the use of the Army rank structure by the RELA.

The Army, for that matter the Armed Forces, holds esteemed and sacred the commission and the rank structure conferred to them. Their commissions are conferred by SPB Yang DiPertuan Agong and can only be withdrawn or revoked by him.

Having met the prerequisite to become an officer cadet and a vigorous selection process, those who were successful underwent a period of military training to become an officer, either in our own local institutions or abroad. Not all who applied were selected to undergo the training and not all who underwent the training were commissioned. Their commissions were conferred in a traditional ceremony, solemnly officiated by SPB Yang DiPertuan Agong or one of the rulers on his behalf, befitting the profession.

Having made a Second Lieutenant, they had to attend numerous professional courses and had to pass a written and a practical examination before they could be promoted to the next higher rank as Kaptain and Mejar. Their promotions are also based on the vacancies that existed in the establishment and goes through the appropriate Promotion Board and endorsed by the Armed Forces Council before the consent by SPB Yang DiPertuan Agong. They are not promoted simply on a time scale. Hense, a number of officers left or had to leave the Service before their due retirement age or on reaching the end of their short service commission date to facilitate for the upward movement of the younger officers.

Their commissions and promotions are gazetted in the Government Gazette. A commissioned officer holds his commission, using his last rank in Service, till death unless his commission is revoked by the Yang DiPertuan Agong for disciplinary or reasons unbecoming of an officer. Hense, retired Armed Forces officers still have their last rank before retirement, with their names and they are still referred to by their rank. They are proud to use them or to be referred by their rank even though it is only a Kaptain or Mejar when some of their intake members are Kolonels or Jenerals.

Likewise, the Other Ranks also goes through a vigorous selection process before they are selected for the basic recruit training. Again, not all who applied to join the Armed Forces were selected to go through the recruit training and not all who underwent the recruit training were selected to serve the Armed Forces. On joining the Service, they also had to attend numerous professional courses and must have the proper leadership qualities required before they are promoted. Again, their promotions are also subject to the vacancies in the establishment and promoted through a properly constituted Promotion Board.

With all due respect, RELA is not part of the Armed Forces. They have their roles to play but their roles are not part of the total defence plan per se. We have the Territorial Army as the back-up force to the regular forces in the total defence plan of the country. The Territorial Army is part of the Armed Forces set-up.

Not having to state the shortfalls of the RELA officers in comparison to the Army officers as stated above, and not having to state other not-so-nice comparisons, we see no similarity nor justification to warrant the use of the Army rank structure by the RELA organization. They should use their own or other rank structure as appropriate to their organization.

We hope the appropriate authorities take recognition of this. We are not privy to know if the Army or for that matter, the Armed Forces or the Ministry of Defence or the Armed Forces Council have been referred to on the use of the Army rank structure by the RELA or by the Ministry of Home Affairs before the Act was tabled in Parliament. We are not sure if SPB Yang DiPertuan Agong, as the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, was made aware or has been duly advised beforehand and consented to the use of the Army rank structure by RELA.

On the part of the retired Armed Forces officers, Kol Abd Malik bin Alwi, (Bersara), President of Kelab Pegawai-Pegawai RAMD, has taken the initiative to convey our objection, in writing to our YAB. Prime Minister. Kol Abd Malik has also briefed our RAFOC Committee on this matter during our committee meeting on 14 Jun 2012. Our RAFOC Committee deliberated on the matter and agreed to support the effort by Kol Abd Malek on this objection. Thus, Jen Tan Sri Dato’ Seri Abd Rahman bin Abd Hamid, (Bersara), our RAFOC Deputy President and Lt Jen Tan Sri Dato’ Seri Abd Ghani bin Abd Aziz, TUDM, (Bersara), one of our RAFOC Vice-President, accompanied Kol Abd Malek to meet YB. Minister of Defence on 14 Jun 2012 to state our case. YB. Minister of Defence has agreed to refer the matter to YAB. Prime Minister. To date, we are yet to get the feed-back. 22 June 2012 is only this Friday!

Please let your objection be made known to the relevant authorities and your peers still serving in the Armed Forces through your net-work. We must protect the exclusive and the sacred use of our Army rank structure by our Armed Forces. RELA should use other rank structure.

On behalf of its members, in particular and on behalf of the retired Armed Forces officers' community, in general, RAFOC has made its objection known to the relevant authorities. We want Section 22 of the RELA Act 2012 rescinded.

Lt Kol (Bersara)
Honorary Secretary
On behalf of the Committee

………….(which I am sure included its President Tan Sri Dato’ Mohd Ghazali bin Dato’ Mohd Seth.)


SHIT CAN: Old NAVY slang for a garbage or trash can.

Also NAVY slang for the verb "survey", which means to declare worthless.

"Sweepers, man your brooms.

Make a clean sweep-down fore and aft.

Take all shit cans to the fantail.


If you ask me I would want them to guard our mall carparks!


Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

Officers' rank insignias are control items in the MAF. Please treat them with the highest regards. Not any Tom Dick and Harry's outfit deserves
to use them.They are the achievements we officers cherish most.Which dick head thought of this foolish idea?

backStreetGluttons said...

Just like the National (mis)Service, there's something sinister about this dark Rela thing.

& like the truly maligned 1Malaysia charade, they aint looking good at all

najib manaukau said...

This only goes to show what the authority thinks of the Army rank structure and also the respect it gives to RAFOC ! Yet they are claiming to be experienced and well versed in managing the country !

Anonymous said...

kita hidup di negara 'malaysiaboleh'. kita tidak akan rasa apa2 selagi cara hidup kita tidak diganggu gugat, khususnya orang2 melayu. tiada bezanya di antara melayu kampong yang hidup kais pagi makan pagi dengan melayu bandar yang hidup menyenangkan. selagi hidup kita tidak diganggu gugat, kita perlu sokong kerajaan 'melayuboleh' walaupun di hadapan kita terdampar macam2 keburukan kerajaan 'malaysiaboleh'.

sebagai seorang bekas anggota tentera darat, saya merasa bangga dan berterima kasih kepada rafoc kerana bangkit mempertahankan tentera darat dalam isu ini. tetapi kita perlu ingat bahawa kita di dalam keadaan ini hari ini kerana kita tidak ambil peduli dengan tindakan2 yang boleh menghancurkan negara oleh kerajaan 'malaysiaboleh' kerana tindakan2 itu itu tidak terkena kepada batang hidung kita.

apakah rafoc sedra betapa ada pegawai2 tentera yang telah bersara/berhenti sanggup memasuki rela dan berkhidmat berketuakan se orang awam yang tidak ada sedikitpun pengalaman ketenteraan? ah ini perkara kecil sahaja. untuk hidup.

jangan salahkan orang lain kerana kesalahan itu juga tertuding ke arah kita. kerana kita turut memartabatkan kerajaan 'malaysiaboleh' dengan cara yang tidak langsung menghormati profesionalisme ketenteraan! tangan2 kita penuh dengan dosa akibat dari tindakan oleh kerajaan 'malaysiaboleh'. ini akan terus berlanjutan kecuali kita bertaubat dan memohon keampunanan Alla Taala dan jangan kita sekali2 putus asa dengan Allah Taala (pesan allahyarham ustaz fadzil nor). kita bukan hidup untuk bertongkat langit. ramai dari kita sudah pun hampir dengan penghujung kehidupan duniawi ini.

semoga Allah merahmati dan mengampuni kita semua.

salam ukhuwah dan maaf.

Allah jua yang Maha Mengetahui.

Anonymous said...

Disgusting, Apa jenis penghormatan yang kerajaan berikan kepada pegawai pegawai yang ditauliah oleh SPB Agong hingga disamakan dengan pegawai rela?
Akta ini RELA Act 2012 perlu dibatalkan segerasebagai satu penghargaan dan penghormatan pada tauliah agong. Kenapa pangkat Rela tak dimulakan AMN, KMN,Datuk, Tan Sri, Tun dan selain nya?

Mr Bojangles said...

...and the only thing that our distinguished Min of Defence can say to the request is that he'll refer to the boss.

Don't these clowns know that they are handsomely paid and feted by the people to make decisions, and not be carrier pigeons, passing messages from one to another?

That even a chief clerk can do. And at a small fraction of the cost.

Perks they want, grinning like apes all the time, but work and responsibility they shun. Unless there is money in it for them, I guess.

Anonymous said...

What do you expect when the people running the Armed Forces are made of dungus and kaki bodek.
Padan muka ANgkatan Tentera Malaysia and you are equivalent to RELA.

Anonymous said...

Tan Sri Gen Zulkifli Zainal Abidin... Chief of Army.... What are you doing... it happened under your batang hidung!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Government got no money to pay penchen to those ex-army?

They should retire for good.

Jong said...

This troubling, no reason for bull-dozing through the RELA Act 2012 without proper consultation and careful consideration with interested authorities the Military and Civil Society because it involves security of nation.

Prime Minister Najib and his Home Minister cousin Hishamuddin must be up to something 'no good' up their sleeves! Why are they in such a hurry? ...for application during coming GE-13?

Anonymous said...

Ran out of PR leaders arse for you to lick Senor? Now turning to the ex-servicemen's arse for your pleasure? :)

cin2tan said...

fyi saja :

WWW15 = rm24,200.00 ;
PKR 1 = 99,555.00;
PKR 3 = 50,000.00.

mana ada olang miskin le ...!?

Anonymous said...

Who else but umno wanting to be generals without the effort.......evrything can....first person you will whom will bs general is K.J.....yes not najib...have been outplayed.

Anonymous said...

RELA, carilah yg baru, jgn nak celok org punya. RAFOC buat lah sesuatu supaya identiti kita dicelok oleh org lain. Mohon mengadap AGONG. TQ

Wai SM said...

Very sadly these Rela members don't/can't even dress up properly. Utterly slacking from head to toe. But want to wear the Ranks belong to the Army. Please don't make Malaysia a laughing stock of the world. Not mentioning the training needed to perform the roles and functions of the Army, most importantly, please have some self respect and do not disgrace our Supreme Commander - Our Most Respected Yang diPertuan Agong.

Anonymous said...

Why are Malaysians making fools of themselves?

ATM veteren said...

PAT dah kenyang dahhhhhh,the shebby RELA staff that managed the traffic at Kenduri kawin,pasar malam now are equivelent with the MAF personnel,what a desgrace to the MAF, a well trained pesonnel mana muka nak pandang,ini BODOH punya PAT,mangkuk,pariah apa sudah jadi dengan MAF niiiiiiii,saya pandang uniform RELA ni pun JIJIK lah.MAF personnel and Veteren we can make the different.

Anonymous said...

Kind of like fake Datuks I guess.

Anonymous said...