TODAY has been a trying day. It did not begin well. We, Haris and I were instructed that we do not attend RPK's habeas corpus hearing at the Jalan Duta Court Complex. This was a difficult request to accede to, especially so because we thought we had been drumming for enough support for this event and more difficult if we do not appear. It was crushing to learn later on that not many turned up as we had expected. Doubly crushing as both of us were thoroughly reprimanded for our absence. Here is how one Jeyapalan viewed our absence:
The Phoenix Foundation said...
BK!
Where the dickens were u & all the other so called BLOGGERS, this morning? Why the ..... were u all not at JLN DUTA Court No 1?
Hiding or nursing a hang over?
Sudal lah ! Talk is cheap bit all of u ....no balls!
We were there!
But we are simple rakyaat!
I hope u r feeling good!
We are now 30,000!!!
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RPK’s case began at
Malik (Imtiaz) informed the judge “We were told that last night Section 8 order was issued by the Minister of Home Affairs – applicant – detained in Kamunting.”
Prosecution answered ‘yes’ and said was told this morning. In his statements, he said that the police no longer had the authority re. RPK – shifted to the Home Affairs Minister. So the writ of H.c. is ‘ACADEMIC’!
Judge’s response: A lot of matters taken over by events… Detention order supersedes.
Malik: I totally disagree. ..We were informed this morning …We were not given any notice of this position. The police had our numbers…The Detention Order Section 8 is clearly ultra vires. (?)
He brought up cases e.g. Nasirudiin’s and Hindraf’s cases
Said counsel would file application that Section 8 is unconstitutional. “We contend that this is a life issue…Detention is in bad faith…Section 8 has flowed out of Section 73)…we say that the detention is in violation of Article 11 – freedom of religion.
Malik: The Minister can only be challenged on procedural grounds said the prosecution. I disagree. ..
Judge: Messy –Section 8 flows from Section 73. “If challenge the minister, there – overlapping. You may have a situation where there is duplication, overlapping. Better for you to concentrate on one…. If you do it together (Section 73 and Section 8) it will be messy. Easier to just do one.”
Observation:
‘Academic’ and ‘ overtaken by events’ were the words that held currency at the court this morning in the hearing of the cases pertaining to Teresa Kok and Raja Petra. Because Teresa had already been released, the matter was said to be ‘academic’ by the judge. In the case of Raja Petra, the habeas corpus application was pronounced ‘academic’ by the prosecution because Section 73 had been superseded by the Section 8 Detention Order which the Home Minister had furtively sprung upon RPK late yesterday evening , so accordingly , authority was no longer with the police but with the Home Minister. Interesting that two cases back to back shared the same ‘event of superseding’ and that life cases of such monumental significance can be labelled ‘academic’. Not a coincidence by a long mile!
The fact that late last night the order had been issued and in the earlier part of yesterday the case had been moved from Friday to today, just goes to show how much respect there is for the law and the Federal Constitution!
New hearing : 28th October. Meanwhile, while many have nary a care during the forthcoming festivities, RPK who fought so hard for justice and righteousness in this nation languishes in Kamunting!
Moral of the story the authorities want to instill in us: DO NOT SPEAK THE TRUT
On the eve of the hearing when told that JC Suraya Othman was a fair person and soon to be promoted to Justice, I was hopeful for RPK. However my hopes crashed together with my respect for the soon-to-be-promoted Judicial Commissioner. I hope she sleeps well during this season of Ramadan.
Nobody likes it when you rub salt into a wound. This from Bernama:
Syed Hamid said the people should understand why the Government decided to use the ISA, as what was important was to turn offenders into members of society who could contribute to nation building.
He said to date, he had not received any official proposals to free the other ISA detainees.
”If there are, I will look at them. But again what is more important is for the detainees to change to be able to return to society and together with other citizens, take part in nation building,” he said.
Earlier I had written that some of the detainees were already in Kamunting for more than 6 years. I am saying now that if in 6 years you are unable to turn offenders into members of society who could contribute to nation building....then your method must be terribly flawed. I spent 14 days to train my alsatian dog into a guard dog and Kamunting cannot turn offenders into decent members of society. I suggest the Home Minister should take over the exercise as his officials are incapable and inadequate.
On Sunday, my friend TV Smith asked Ku Li at a pre-buka puasa session his take on the arrest of RPK under the ISA. This is Ku Li's reply:
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I wonder if Botak will die of unnatural causes if we curse and swear verminously for his early demise? It would please a lot of us if we could see him celebrating Hari Raya 6 feet underground.
Let's all curse the mofo to an early expiry. He must perish for the good of the nation. Niamah !!!
If that thing on the poster was a live subject, i sure would like to connect my shin somewhere to the center-right of his hydraulics. Wham !!! End of the runway !!!
Premise 1: ISA was designed to combat the communists in Malaysia.
Premise 2: The Malaysian government announced the dissolution of the communists in Malaysia and their return to society.
Premise 3: The ISA is still around today.
Conclusion: The Malaysian government has not done its job in eradicating communism in Malaysia despite it being 2008 as such it is a silent admission of incapability.
what about the wretched rat in the bukit !? does 'it' fit ? btw, it has not received any official suspender yet bcos it tak faham human bahasa lah !
Dearest Bro' Zorro,
I was at the court yesterday. Although you and Bro' Haris were sorely missed by many of us, we also knew the very reason as to why you two guys were told to be away, and for a bloody good reason, too.
I did meet Mr. Jeyapalan there and would have been very glad to brief him as to your respective absence was at "our" strict directives/orders (whichever way you want to put) and that matter would have been put to rest, if he had bothered to find out from any of us who were in YM RPK's Colour, Yellow. And there were many.
That courtroom was filled to capacity with many standing in and out. If more had actually turned up, probably we would have seen reinforcements in the form of those boys-in-blue.
Personally, I also feel extremely hurt by the choice of words mentioned by the writer who obviously did not know the "head or tail" of the entire situation.
But then, we can't satisfy the whims and fancies of everyone all the time, can we? Suffice to say that most of YM RPK's supporters there understood and in fact appreciated the absence of you both for obvious VALID reasons.
Take care and don't be bothered at all by any comments made, with or without knowing the truth of the current situation.
May God Bless and Protect You and Bro' Haris Always as we need you guys outside to carry on our "Crusade".
Zorro,
I wouldn't lose sleep over comments from punitive minds like some of your commenters.
Just because they laid one brick, the think they built the house. They attend one or two vigils, court cases, they think they are the only ones who championed the cause. These are the ones who will be the first to run when the heat is turned on.
pa
BK,
May I suggest you create the old bucket system where maggot and croaches breed. Throw Badie Al-Bur into it as he does seem to have any iota of human decency left in him
Any right thinking and decent citizen, will feel the stress and disgust, with the actions and statements from this orang utang Botak. Typical scum!
Yes, even your 'fart chamber' is too good for this asshole. He should be sent back to his Borneo jungle. The very look of his fcuking face makes me puuuuuuuuuuke!
zorro
may is suggest that you build a new chamber solely for animals. in that way humans will not be contaminated. but make sure the features in the new chmaber befits that for animals with two legs, two hands but have no heart, no grey matter and no conscience.
Hi Zorro. Why were you and Haris "instructed" to stay away? Who gave the instructions? The way you wrote this is very worrying.
Was that the Idiot who's imitating a dog easing itself?
Or demonstrating Kama Sutra position No. 44?
Lets hope he loses in the UMNO elections cow-cow.
P/s You can open up a cess-pool for morons and cretins.
Be cool, and stay safe
throw the bloody botak al-blur & C4 the Najis into the world's only dungeon.Anyway,is our country by mamaks?
My apologies, Zorro. Please ignore my last comment. I just read Haris's blog. Thank you.
Anonymous said…
We call upon all the Rakyats of Malaysia to sign a Petition to be sent to the Yang Di-Pertuan Agong to release RPK from his detention under ISA because there is a hidden agenda of a conspiracy of using his detention to silence him so that he could not further release more evidences against the real C4 murderers of Altantuya because all the accused persons were all fall guys of the real murderers because they all did not have a real & logical motive to commit the murder of the Mongolian Lady.
THE NEW DAWN OF MALAYSIA HAS COME & THE FIRST THING IS TO ALLOW APPEALS & THEN RELEASE ALL ISA DETAINEES, ABOLISH ISA, OSA, SEDITION OR WHATEVER ACTS THAT COULD BE EXPLOITED AND MADE PREJUDICIAL AND OPPRESSIVE TO THE VOICE OF DISSENT FROM ALL THE RAKYATS.
It is very easy to generate Police Reports against DSAI by using Penang Mamak Umno’s 25 Members headed by Wan Abidin Zain, who claimed to be non-partisan, using their uneasiness that most Penangites will now be boycotting Nasi Kandar one more round???
It is very Sad that the legacy of Malaysian Independence is reduced by this Moronic Flip Flop Coward into great disrepute and a laughing stock of the whole world and knowing very well that the UMNO Government has technically collapsed and they have lost the locus standi to govern but yet he has decided to shamelessly still cling on to power via dubious means like hiding himself via using of the ISA and we cannot imagine that the Malaysia Moronic Flip Flop Coward has now stoop so low and using the Police Deputy IGP as his willing tools especially the Deputy IGP’s clearly taking side as the Police must be neutral and should be not politiking for him.
The Coward Moronic Flip Flop Chicken dare not meet DSAI face to face to settle matters but chose hiding under the use of ISA and that is what you have as a disgraceful cowardice leader for UMNO.
After 51 years MALAYSIA IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE but backwards because of the Oppression from the UMNO goons’ divide and rule fear tactics the Rakyats have matured & you must see all this coming because All The Rakyats of Malaysia are all fed-up & can no longer with-stand the hypocrisies, bullshits, lies and deceits of these UMNO Clowns now in Power ok???
We urge all BN Components MPs with a conscience to do the necessary to make possible a New Malaysia for all Rakyats of Malaysia so that all our children and their children & their children’s children’s future will be safe and secured in the Country we all love and not be intimidated by those UMNO Clowns now in power with their oppressive & fear tactics and in the verge of making Malaysia a Police State if left unchecked otherwise. Save RPK as he is the midst of a conspiracy of the real murderers of Altantuya to silence him for good, instead of being C4ed he could be poisoned and worse off if he is on hunger strike by himself. The Acting IGP is defending the Police position after being made the tools of UMNO’s fear tactics & so he is now making lame excuses for being the Stringed Puppet to be easily manipulated by the Puppeteer, power that be. The Deputy IGP must be held personally responsible for the safety of RPK who has been heard to be tortured otherwise he must be made to eat his own medicine come the New Dawn of Malaysia.
Moronic PeeM and Botak Home Minister last minutes’ attempts to cling on power by using the fear tactics of using the ISA at their whims and fancies selectively against dissent & tried to deny their own actions as they now have no balls to face the wrath of the all the Rakyats of Malaysia. ONE DAY THE MORONIC BOTAK AND FLIP FLOP AND C4 MUST BE MADE TO TASTE THEIR OWN MEDICINE OK?
All Rakyats of Malaysia will see to that these Clowns will be thrown out soon come the New Dawn of Malaysia & that all Rakyats of Malaysia will welcome the New Malaysia on Malaysia Day 916, 2008 for a Malaysia for All Malaysians.
Justice MUST BE DONE for Altantuya and for all those detained under ISA without the trial nor the rights of appeal. Light-up a Candle in the Lantern of the Mid-Autumn Festival for them all to usher in the NEW DAWN OF MALAYSIA COME 916, 2008
Dear Zorro,
Don't let what that guy says bother you. If he just used his brain a little, he's have realised why you guys weren't there! I mean, I don't know anything, and even I can guess why!
Most of us would be without a clue as to what is going on if not for you and Haris; and for matters concerning RPK's case, Malik Imtiaz. Bless you guys!
So, thank you for your posts, and for sticking your neck out there. Many seem to forget that it is not easy doing what you do.
Chin up, Zorro. There are more of us rooting for you than against you!
Cheers,
Pat
916.....then 923 ....
if this was pak lah, you all would be screaming FLIP FLOP already..
why the double standard?
This is really crazy..
we need power
more power to be exact
chong eng keat: if you think this is double standard, so be it. It is too trivial to go into this at this point in time. However, from your armchair can you give us some specifics as to how you would engineer the SMOOTH transition. All of us, especially DSAI would welcome your ingenious step by step strategies. If you cannot, then go do something constructive like reading bedtime stories to whichever child wants to listen to you.
BK,
I thought I would see you and Haris there yesterday at the Fart Room(correctly phrased) as on most occassion both were part of the event if I might put it to complete the picture. There is no other reason both wouldn't be, however, I believe there must be some serious one that held you guys away. No quetion.
Yes, there weren't many people and I saw a few yellowies in a car on the way there, nil was seen in the lobby until the handful in the courtroom. Great thing is YB Zaid was there. It was bad time management of the court after an hour the judge arrived and the rest was history. YM RPK was already in Kamunting before any of the other firsts court session.
The Home Monster ala Botak certainly has pea brain showing his low IQ, tyrannic, wag the dog order from his Pee Master.
What this Botak Home Monster really needs for a cure for his immorality and cheap distort is a perfect antidote: is Lethal Injection to his brain to de-paralyse his shit-thinking.
Zorro
I was there and the judge came in at 10.15 and cleared a couple of other cases, including Teresa Kok's appeal for habeas corpus (rendered academic) b4 RPK's appeal was heard.
A key point which Malik made was that while the DPP claimed he had only been informed at 7 a.m. about RPK's ISA trf to Kamunting, he came remarkably prepared with submission papers.
The judge was obviously familiar with all the arguments & reference cases quoted by the DPP and Malik, but still insisted on written submissions. Malik said he would submit that afternoon as a matter of urgency; the DPP said Friday.
The judge then said she would be going away for Hari raya and gave the Oct 28 as the day for the hearing. This of course renders everything academic since Malik cannot afford to wait for more than 1 month while RPK rots in prison.
So, I think they will have to go ahead with a fresh habeas corpus application challenging Magoo No Bianca's (botak) ISA order as a mala fide act and abuse of authority, for an earlier hearing.
When you guys did not turn up, I knew there must be good reasons for it. But that's only 2 of you. What happened to the rest? Temenggong was also there, but at best, there were no more than 5 bloggers. There were no police blocks anywhere
http://donplaypuks.blogspot.com
The thought police is marching full steam ahead in the land of Boleh! All must be silenced. All thoughts must be sanctioned.
Sad!
http://mvnathan.blogspot.com/
eng keat
the mission is the same, so there's no issue on flip flop. its just the timing. even if i have to wait until GE13, i will keep the faith. patience is a virtue, eng keat. Keep the faith coz the rewards are worth it.
Dear Mr Jeyalapan,
I saw you standing at the right side wall near Zaid and Marina in the court room.
Does that mean you had justified your cause to seek justice for RPK?
Don't give me those mushy stuff you commented in the People parliament.
Hang the Malaysian Flag in Distress in your Pheonix Foundation Blog then we are talking
Don't ever try the "I don't desecrate the flag stuff"
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I really am fed up with you doing another "Susan Loone" stuff.
If you have nothing encouraging to share at this trying time just go do bungee jumping and show you got big balls.
When Pakatan takes over the govt, Botak (Syed Hamid)should be put under ISA for protection bcoz so many people will be baying for his blood. Then he should be ordered to be caged in a small room, sleep on cement floor and be given food fit for dogs. After that, he can give us a press conference and as usual, lying and telling us how good life is in detention…
Of course, this is only a figment of my imagination bcoz after Pakatan takes over, ISA and Botak will be finished - sent to the dustbin of history, forgotten and buried.
Zorro,
You all seem to be full of excuses for what ever you lack.
He lied twice -
Excuse :- "still planning a smooth transition"
As to why all the loud mouths werent in court
Excuse :- "we were warned not to"
For me, a lie is a lie no matter how you twist it.
You dont have the numebers or prepared a smooth transition then why commit? Why lose credibility? you all made hell alot of noise when pak lah lied about election date. but its ok , when you God Anwar Ibrahim lies? how come?
dont come and throw this at me and ask me for a smooth transition plan.. IT IS NOT I that made the promise TO THE RAKYAT. What is wrong for me as a rakyat to demand accountability for the promises you make? Is it wrong for the rakyat who put you there in the first place to demand an explanation?
All this crap about 'the government should be affraid of the people" or "accountability" or "transparency" or what ever slogans you guys conviniently scream while clenching your fist.. dont tell me its just for the feel good factor?
AI asked for our trust, we gave it to him, but with trust comes accountability. Where is it? suddenly so quiet?
Instead of asking me for the solution, why not promote good governence.. one that (for a change) stop screwing us up our behind with empty promises. One BN party is enough..
uncle, i do worried about safety coz your blog is also hot one..and hope the angels will protect u and d rest..insyaALLAH
Semoga kebenaran akan tegak n yang salah akan gugur segera.
take care uncle
Hi Zorro,
Thanks for such an amusing picture. I really have a good laugh.
Cheers.
where can i get a copy of the picture, i want to print it on my underwear back & front,so i can piss & fart at him.
I do think chong eng keat has a point there, although he could have expressed it in a better way.
I agree, It is high time that our politicians from both PR and BN start being accountable for their actions and their words.
In other developed democratic countries, the government are known as public servants, and the rakyat its masters. never would they dare to go public and lie to us to our face. Unfortunately, that is what Anwar did. Good excuse or not good excuse irregardless, his position as a wakil rakyat comes with a commitment of responsibility and with responsibility comes accountability to his MASTERS.
where can i get a copy of the picture, i want to print it on my underwear back & front,so i can piss & fart at him.
Dear Zorro,
It's why the Straits Times of Singapore and PERHAPS Singapore government a bit supportive of the Malaysia current establishment.
Much easier to handle 3rd class goons. Hmm......
looes74
wife : why u wearing the suspender 'inside-out' !?
man : to show my DISTRESS !!
wife : ....why NOT your shirt too !
man : ok ! why NOT !!
Zorro, why NOT !? shall we ALL...!
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