Tuesday, December 30, 2008

SUCH INSENSITIVE BUTCHERY?

ME, IT IS BEST I KEEP SILENT. I CANNOT TRUST MYSELF.


18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Question is: who is being insensitive? There will be no peace on earth as long as there are those who have no goodwill towards their fellowmen.
Check this out: http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2008/12/29/there-is-no-humanitarian-crisis-in-gaza-palestine-3000-rockets-prove-it/

V

wandererAUS said...

Sympathy undoubtedly, should be given to the underdogs, the Palestinians...but, for decades, what have the BIG wealthy Arabs done? Nothing!
These were the same Arabs, who went to bed with the Americans to destroy Iraq, killing thousands of her innocent citizens...a war that was based on lies.
So to the American war mongers, what is there to add a few more hundreds dead muslims in the 'Middle East Killing field'.
UMNO goons are just giving lip service to justify their concern...which is worth 2 cents!

zorro said...

V, did you miss the ? or did I just put it on.

But thanks....it is feedback like yours that put stature to this blog. Thanks again, and do visit.

zorro said...

Yes, go see the other side of the mirror at http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2008/12/29/there-is-no-humanitarian-crisis-in-gaza-palestine-3000-rockets-prove-it/

vinnan said...

Jews beat up Arabs for electoral ends. Malays beat up Chinese and Indians for electoral ends. W.t.f is the diff. Ask you pro-Palestinian friends this question and see what kind of answer you get.

Anonymous said...

zorro no doubt I condemn the killings of innocents on both sides, but i think this has been the agenda of terrorists and trouble makers, its simmiliar to this, there are 2 neighbours A AND B, who hate each others guts, both are to blame for their issues, but A keeps on pushing the envelope and instigating fights by throwing stones everyday into B house, Now how long do you think is this going to be allowed before B reacts, B's family members are getting hurt, should B just keep quiet or should B teach A, a lesson A, will never forgets, so B retaliates, by throwing bricks into A's house so where does A hide, he hides under the skirt of his mother and sisters, now whlile these bricks are flying, don't you think A's family members are going to get hurt? so its either A leaves the area and goes somewhere else or stop throwing STONES IN THE FIRST PLACE. THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS 'BUANG BATU SEMBUNYI TANGAN', THAT IS WHAT HAMAS IS DOING, and the ones who suffer is the innocents, Why is Hamas not sending the injured to the Egyptian side for medical treatment, there are convoys of ambulances waiting but hamas prefers their people to die, that way they can arouse more anger from the muslim world and get more funding to make more rockets to shoot into Israel, well but in malaysia some people start foaming at the mouth and start ranting and throwing tantrums, and blaming Israel- I never said israel was an angel either, but look at these clowns, these so called Hamas is a terrorist organisation and behaves like one. so be it, Here is another arab country blaming Hamas, because they share a border with gaza, go ask the egypt, who had a policeman on their border shot and kiled by Hamas security forces in egyptian terrorties. egyptians are also MUSLIMS AND ARABS, so are they lying? What would the world say if egypt retaliates against Hamas for killing their policemen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5roptSbO3GQ

CWI MALAYSIA said...

The only way to bring real, lasting justice, peace and prosperity to Palestinians and to all the peoples of the region is through common mass struggle against oppression and the pro-capitalist, corrupt regimes. The overthrow of capitalism and landlordism and the creation of a genuine socialist society – putting people before profit and ending poverty – would see real collaboration between all working people of the region, pooling together all the rich resources for the benefit of the many and bringing about real self-determination for the oppressed.
http://asocialistmalaysia.blogspot.com/2008/12/palestine-mobilise-against-cruel.html

Anonymous said...

Humans are selfish with “you and me” attitude.

First they attacked, oppressed (sometimes killed) each other due to different nationalities.

Then they attacked, oppressed (sometimes killed) each other due to different race/skin color.

Then they attacked, oppressed (sometimes killed) each other due to different religion.

Then they attacked, oppressed (sometimes killed) each other due to different religion sect/different ideology.

Then they attacked, oppressed (sometimes killed) each other due to different faction/different gang.

Then they attacked, oppressed (sometimes killed) each other due to different family.

Before Malaysian Government, Malaysian politicians condemned other nations, please first look at our own Malaysia.

If so called “civilized” Malaysia cannot get rid of our own “you and me” policy, please do not expect peace between Palestine (Arabs) and Israelis. Nobody should be surprised at all they are at each other throat again.

Moreover, Hamas does not seem to care that many of their own innocent people will be killed if they start a war with Israel by firing rockets into Israel.

It is the same scenario in the 2006 summer war of Hezbollah with Israel in Lebanon. So much damage is done and so many normal people killed/injured but Hezbollah does not care just to get/gain political mileage.

Also Arab Muslims did worst and more cruel things to their own people compare to what Israelis have done; Arab Muslims killed more of their own people compare to the number killed by Israelis. When Arab Muslim do not even respect their own people, do not respect their own women, do not respect and do not give their own people freedom and human right, how do the Arab Muslims expect other people to respect them? Many people do not support Israel, but neither many people like the Arab Muslim.

I do not see these same Malaysians coming out to condemn the Arabs regime.

Anonymous said...

Let’s get something straight, Israel is a legitimate country which was founded on chaos and fought and won for by the Jewish people, Israel was recognized by the UN, whether you like it or not, to the victors go the spoils of war, that is how the world works, to call Israel an occupied land is Fallacy, a propaganda statement. If Israel is a illegal state as stated by the Arab countries from the middle east and other misguided nations, than by the same reasoning than the whole of the middle east countries are illegal states, being lands stolen from the Turkish Ottoman empire from whom theses lands were stolen from by the British led and sponsored wars of the Bedouin tribes of the region. So the reality of the situation of "possession is 9/10 of the law" holds water for the jewish people and the palestinian peoples’ claim of it being an occupied land doesn’t hold water. Folks you lost the wars even after numerous attempts, so live with it.
So all these pathetic crying and moaning of poor Palestinians being killed is the fault of the people the choose to rule them, They voted in Hamas, a terrorist organization same as Hezbollah al being sponsored by IRAN. So when you ruling govt., goes and starts shooting rockets into a neighboring country well folks you are just looking for trouble, every action has a reaction, to cry now of Israel’s aggression is sheer stupidity.
Why is it the muslims don't condemn and blame all these terrorist organizations, Why is it people support blindly, is it because you read the same Holy book so that means you are self righteous, so there are no murderers, crooks, rapists because they are Ummah, might as well free all those muslim convicts in our malaysian jails because they are ummah. Why do muslims complain that they are perseived as terrorists and murderers, who are the majority of suicide bombers, who blew up trains and busses in britain, the train bombings in spain,It is all an excuse, by using the excuse of israel, why go and blow up innocent people who are apolitical. you want to stop the bombers, stop supporting terrorists, simple, the moment the funding and donations freeze or finish off there will be no more money to make bombs, these people are anarchists , who are abusing Islam, and USING ISLAM as a unifying excuse. we recently had a Malaysian women killed in the Mumbai muslim terrorist attacks, we only got lip service, from the muslims in Malaysia, were there protests by UMNO AND PAS AND ALL THOSE UMMAHS at the Pakistan embassy, why the hypocracy? please understand this you push and push someday something has to give, If all the non muslim nations in the world turn around and say please keep your religion and don't bother us anymore, don't do trade with us and keep your oil, we will buy our oil from Russia, all muslims are persona non grata in all western nations. I am just waiting for the day when we see a mushroom cloud on the horizon and maybe a biological weapon's attack, do you want to see nuclear devises raining down on the middle east, Mecca, Pakistan, don't forget the biggest poppy growers in the world are muslims in AFGANISTAN, If you want chaos your wish may just come true. I think the time has come for muslims, to open their eyes and smell the coffee, they get very offended on perceived insults on their Religion but turn a blind eye to murder mayhem and chaos in fact even condoning it, what about the insult to all the intelligance of the rest of human kind on all the bombings. I think the wish of the muslims may just come true, if they cross the line, sept 11 was one where they went too far, now reap what you have sown, cry for the dead muslims, innocents dying everyday for the deeds of fanatics.
Genghis khan

Anonymous said...

Darfur, Somalia and most part of troubled Africa's death gets no notice fom Malaysian Muslims. Why are Palestinians Muslims only so important?
Palestinians are not even united but want to take on a great power? Provoke it and then blame them..One in glass house should not throw stones at others!Why are hamas making rockets instead of seeing that Palestinains are fed and getting educated to take on the world!
Should India act towards pakistan, like Israel, I am sure our Muslims friends would condenm India but look at history who did what? Luckily India is more level headed, but I wonder how long India would be patient. No Muslim nations asking Pakistan to do the needful as well; on the other hand Talibans are prepared to work hand in hand with pakistan Army..who is right and who is wrong?

sinnerconman said...

Hamas threatens not just their own regimes but social, economical and political development in the Arab world. Is Egypt supporting Hamas? No. Is Jordan supporting Hamas? No. Do the Gulf emirs support Hamas? No. Is Saudi monarchy supporting Hamas? No. Iraqis supported Hamas but a suicide bomber also joined them and there were deaths and injuries! Muslims organized protests all over the world for the main reason it was Muslims (Hamas) being attacked and blasted by IDF.Nothing more and nothing less.

shankar~selina said...

Hamas was pretty stupid to launch attacks it know it cannot finish. They just asked for it and they are getting what they deserve. Israel's response was disproportionate in its force.. No it is NOT.

Can someone answer me why (I mean really, not rhetorically) the gulf Arabs haven’t supported the infrastructure in Gaza?
For the cost of a single multi-billion dollar tower in Abu Dhabi and/or an A380 private superjumbo with gold fixtures a lot of good could be done, no?
The Jews have always been generous with their financial support of Israel.

Anonymous said...

USA needs nuclear explosion to turn the world into dictatorship
Pravda.ru – December 23, 2008

Is the United States going to put dictatorship into effect under the guise of the anti-terrorist struggle? What may trigger another major transformation in 2009? The answer is obvious: another 9/11 in the USA.

Terrible and bloody events are in store for the world in the beginning of 2009. Most likely, the world will witness a reality show with a nuclear blast, which will be used as a reason for the US administration to change the world order again and leave the new Great Depression behind. There is every reason to believe that the Russian Federation may suffer as a result of this possible initiative too.

Joe Biden made a sensational statement on October 19, 2008. He said that Barack Obama would have to undergo an ordeal during the first six months of his stay in the White House. It will be the time of a very serious international crisis, when Obama would have to make tough and possibly unpopular decisions both in home and foreign politics.

Biden said that there were four or five scenarios for the development of the international crisis. Afghanistan, North Korea or the Russian Federation may become the source of one of them.

When Obama learned of Biden’s speech, he tried to explain everything with rhetorical exaggerations. However, Biden’s remarks gave food for thought, taking into consideration the fact that former secretary of state Madeleine Albright described his remarks as statement of fact.

Apparently, the political elite in the United States is certain that their nation would soon suffer another mammoth terrorist act. This assumption became the subject of Michel Chossudovsky’s article “A Second 9/11„: An Integral Part of US Military Doctrine.”

The independent analysts presented a selection of statements, which US top officials released during the recent several years. For example, Michael Chertoff, the Homeland Security Secretary, said at Yale April 7, 2008 that modern technologies let even a small terrorist group kill hundreds of thousands of people. Dick Cheney stated May 26, 2008: “Nobody can guarantee that we won’t be hit again.”

The general public has been prepared for a possible mega terrorist act with hundreds of thousands of victims. The expectation of another major terrorist attack, Chossudovsky wrote, became a part of the US military doctrine to justify possible preemptive strikes, i.e. aggression. The analyst also wrote that the US administration was aiming the efforts of the national security services at the liquidation of the consequences of the Massive Casualty Producing Event. Moreover, the US establishment believes that such an event may unite the Americans. Tommy Franks, the then CENTCOM commander voiced this idea in 2003. He particularly said that another event with many casualties in the USA would revive the support of wartime laws. Franks also said that such an event would mark the end of democracy in America. To put it in a nutshell, it would mark the beginning of the era of dictatorship.

The US administration planned Operation Northwoods in 1962, in which the US incursion into Cuba was supposed to be justified with a massive massacre of the Miami-based Cubans, as well as the explosion of a US warship in Guantanamo Bay. President Kennedy did not let the operation become a reality. The logic of Northwoods does not differ much from that of General Franks - a new mega terrorist act will justify the beginning of USA’s new aggression in the Middle East.

The Pentagon started to develop the plan of the new war in April 2006 – the third war after the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. Stew Bykovsky, a well-known columnist, said in his interview in August 2007 that America needed another 9/11 because the country had forgotten who its enemy was.

Which weapon would make it possible to conduct a major terrorist attack with countless casualties and produce the effect of universal panic? A nuclear weapon would suit this goal best. It would not be a hardship to say that a nuclear explosion was conducted by Islamic terrorists who stole nukes from Russia in the beginning of the 1990s. A nuclear mushroom grows somewhere in the USA and the country launches another war and introduces dictatorship.
http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/106864-usa_change-0

Anonymous said...

US is not an angle-agreed! name me one Muslim democracy- real democracy. Most Muslim countries are rich in oil and super rich. Why let others manupulate you Muslims. Who is foolish? Why let the demon control you if you know its evils?

UMNO GIVES MILLIONS TO HAMAS said...

Good one Genghis Khan.

You don’t have to repeat yourself too many times, as ultimately, history will prove that Muslims are the biggest hypocrites and practitioners of double standards, of all time!

Can’t help noticing that you left out PKR.

PKR never said anything during or even after the Mumbai ‘08 attacks.

Now, they suddenly begin to act like a government and even refer to Israel as a terrorist state.

http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2008/12/malaysia-supports-hamas-in-war-against.html

In the eyes of The USA, any country that does not recognise Israel as a legitimate state, especially Muslim controlled countries like Malaysia that is also know as a staging ground for terrorist attacks against the non Muslims world wide; is guilty of supporting terrorism and terrorists.

Small fry insects Malays talk big and want to act like Masters of everything in pathetic little Malaysia. Many other countries also thought like that before and they have now been sent back to the stone age.

The end is coming for Malaysia and UMNO. It’s just sad that many innocents and non Islamic or Malay Supremacy mentality thinking people, will also become collateral damage.

Anonymous said...

CWI Malaysia,

This is not an issue of capitalism and socialism.

This is an issue or terror, those whom support it and hypocrites.

Let me ask you something, if Malaysia shoots rockets into Thailand for years and is finally stormed by Thailand, can you imagine the noise that the Muslims would make?

Now let us say that it was any non Muslims majority country that did so and they in turn were finally attacked by Thailand? The majority of Muslims would not make a peep, nor would they care.

Majority Muslims, especially those UMNO members and supporters in this country don't even care when non Muslims are oppressed and killed.

The politicians only pretend to care when they want your vote and favours.

Surind Raj said...

Excerpts:
http://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2009/01/peace-in-palestine.html

Our opposition to Zionism does not mean that we support the PLO. Unlike some, we don’t single out Jewish nationalism for special condemnation. We condemn all nationalisms equally. The “Palestinian nation” is just as much a myth as the “Jewish nation”, or any other nation. Nationalism is the ideology which seeks to justify the capitalist division of the world into separate “nation-states”, each competing to gain a place in the sun for its ruling class and each with killing machines at its disposal. We utterly reject this view of the way humanity should organise itself.

As Socialists we re-affirm that all peoples should seek their emancipation, not as members of nations or religions or ethnic groups, but as human beings, as members of the human race. They should unite to abolish the division of the world into so-called nation-states and to establish a World Cooperative Commonwealth of which we will all be free and equal members - citizens of the world, not subjects of nation-states.

Continue Reading:
http://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2009/01/peace-in-palestine.html

oneofthesedays said...

F**k HAMAS, they brought this on to themselves.

Spending money on guns and rockets when they shoulda spent it on food and medicine.