HANTU is irritatingly discerning nowadays. He insists on only upmarket public houses. He questions my bias for the Wharf, Backyard and Champs. It is no business of his where I satiate my perrenial thirst unless he is paying, which is not often at all. So it was at this very English pub, snugged in a corner of the Bangsar Shopping Complex that he met this mata mata. We will come back to this later........................
For now, read what one of my readers, a Melbourne doctor, have to say about the Director General (another reader, donplaypluks calls him "Digi Prepaid") of the Ministry of Health's professional use of the proverbial broom to sweep everything under the BN carpet:
DR SURESH said...
I write this with sadness,to see the dark powers are at work again.The pillar of our constitution,the judiciary has been trampled upon and corrupted and now the medical fraternity too is not spared.
Ismail Merican has gone against the tenet of the Hippocratic oath. This doctrine stresses the importance of not only a good medical practise but also gives utmost importance to morals and honesty.
First of all Ismail's press conference was full of medical terminology,how can a layperson understand them?Was he trying to confuse the public?In doing so,is he trying to protect the perpetrators and the govt?
Secondly he dismisses Dr.Prashant who has more than 11years of experience as lacking experience and that he worked only in India and Fiji.What is he trying to imply here?Does he mean that the the 2nd expert,Dr Tajuddin from Indonesia is better than Prashant?How can he come to a conclusion without even giving an opportunity to DrPrashant to explain his findings,which are obviously more comprehensive and carried all details as to the cause of Pulmonary edema(water in the lungs)?Furthermore he went on to say that,there was a lack of communication between the 2 experts.This is preposterous,to say the least.The 2nd post mortem report was sought by the victim's family because they felt the 1st report was not detailed enough.
The 1st report mentioned only the cause of the death,which is 'pulmonary edema'(water in the lungs)which is true,but Dr Tajuddin did not elaborate,how a healthy young man can get 'water in the lungs'?He failed to corroborate his finding with the various injury marks on the victim's body.This itself shows that the 1st report is highly suspicious.Therefore the 2nd report suppose to be an independent one,there is no need for Dr.Prashant to communicate with Dr.Tajuddin.
Why is Dr Merican trying to confuse the public?And who are those 9 experts who sat in the ad-hoc committee?What are their credentials?How much can an adhoc committee find in one month,without even seeing the body or the tissues?Why are they preventing Dr.Prashant from carrying out the toxicology test?How on earth can the police raid a dr's office and snatch tissues samples etc,before the Dr could even complete his report?What is the motive behind such a despicable act by Merican,the police and the DG? Merican's excuses were rather disingenuous.I urge Merican to come clean on this matter,as this is not an isolated case.
I hope the MMC will take a serious view of this matter.This issue concerns the life of a person,immaterial wether that person is a criminal or not.Furthermore Kugan is not alive to defend himself.I urge the govt to be fair to his family and stop traumatizing them further.
Dont deprive the poor and the marginalized of their right to seek justice.
Dr Suresh,
Melbourne.
"Kow tim" this police officer volunteered, after a good gulp. Probed further by Hantu, he volunteered that those "desk-job policemen" can breathe easy now, now that documents and samples are in police safe-keeping. To protect his informant's identity, Hantu refused to divulge this "deep-throat's" name. We can live with that.
On further probing as to why the police had to brutalise Kugan, Hantu's informant said that Kugan dared them to touch him. And of coure the rest is past tense now, unless the future calls for a tense NFA? You figure.....shamelessly in Malaysia they protect their own.....as easy as ABC.
Reading the Merican Statement I was thinking to myself, these guys should have come up with the autopsy report on John F Kennedy or Martin Luther King. If these guys had done an "independent investigation or review" I am sure they would have come out that these two died of excessive bleeding without any mention of any bullet going through them. Or maybe these guys went and studied from the South African Apartheid time regime? Maybe they have a tutor from there..just read this news
ReplyDelete"1977: South African police cleared of Biko death:
Security police in South Africa have been exonerated of any blame in the death of black consciousness leader Steve Biko who died while in detention.
The chief magistrate of Pretoria, Martinus Prins, said he officially accepted findings the 30-year-old died of extensive brain injuries sustained during a scuffle with police on the morning of 7 September.
At the time, he said, Mr Biko was being interrogated by five members of the security police who said he had gone "berserk".
Mr Biko died on 12 September in a cell.
"The court finds the available evidence does not prove the death was brought about by an act or omission involving any offence by any person," he said. ....."
Certainly we know where to learn from don't we?
Che Det has always been lamenting that so far no one in Malaysia has got the Nobel Prize. I think Tan Sri Dr. Islmail Marican who came with such distinguished review of the post mortem findings on Kugan's death that more or less amounts to Kugan doing a suicide on himself merits a Nobel Prize on Medicine and Forensic Pathology. The fact that Dr. Marican can come with the mind boggling view that Kugan's death was not due to any wrong doing on the part of the police and that Kugan perhaps used his own powerful thought energy to brutalise himself (a view echoed by Che Det when Anwar was brutalised with the black eye as evidence)is worthy of a pioneering new revelation on forensic pathology. This means that in the future there will be no need for any pathology to be done on a dead body to determine the cause of death. All we need is use the new method devised by Dr. Marican and Team.
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ReplyDeleteI think the 2nd Doc already sent toxicology samples overseas earlier.
ReplyDeleteWhat the police took are probably back up batches which any sane doctor would keep in case the 1st batch went missing or further tests need to be made.
So, I believe all is not lost!
anon 5.27pm
ReplyDeletethe two mamaks come from the same school of thoughts.
I weep for malaysia.
Anybody knows the digi prepaid guys hp number ah?A few parties are very keen to get in touch with him. :
ReplyDeletea)MALU( malaysians all liars
united)
b)PPSMI task force
c)CSI Kalumpang
Dr Suresh is obviously not familiar with our MOH. Ismail Merican head MMC, and the Ethics comm, and all other powerful comm in MOH. Nobody can touch him, LTL cannot touch him. Najib will keep him to do his bidding, so he's free to bluff us as the govt and police wishes.
ReplyDeleteThe right thing would have been to appoint another team of forensic pathologists to do a 3rd post-mortem. Or review the report and what ever samples that's left if the body is already cremated. Ismail Merican and his gang of clinicians are simply NOT QUALIFIED to make a forensics review. They see patients who are alive, not dead ones. That's a different speciality.
donplayplay
Do you remember the so-called Task Force set up to look into one man by the name of Salleh Abbas.That rings a bell.The finding is the same qas in the case of one our DPMs who also inflicted wounds on himself.May GOD help us. Ramlax
ReplyDeleteAll hail the new Crime Minister! He ushers in a new era of advanced reality distortion technology, first introduced in prototype form by Dr M, which can bend truth sufficiently to turn outright lies into official policy and authorized history. With this wondrous new technology, key witnesses can bypass the inconvenience of being asked to testify in high-profile murder cases, while accusations of multimillion ringgit bribes vanish echoless into bottomless pits of business-as-usual. All hail the new Crime Minister & Malaysia's All-Star Umno/BN Rogue Regime!
ReplyDelete1. First of all there is no need at all for Dr Prashant to communicate with that (apa nama?) Serdang fler. Medical ethics demand that confidential information of a patient must not be divulged to a third party, even when the patient has died. Anyone breaching that professional ethic can be summoned before the MMC if a complaint is lodged. Merican, being the Chairman of MMC should know better than that. Any sharing of information on the deceased must have the written permission of the deceased's family members. IF at all there is a need for "communication" between the two pathologist, the onus is for the Serdang fler to obtain written consent from Kugan's family, then furnish the findings to Dr Prashant, so corroborate the findings, if necessary.
ReplyDelete2. Who are those 9 experts sitting on the ad hoc committee? What are their credentials? Who set up the committee? Under what law and whose jurisdiction? How can the members sit and drink coffee and came up with a third findings without having personally examined the body, sift through the tissue slides, etc. Looks very much like armchair doctoring.
3. Merican is doing a character assasination by creating aspersion on the credibility of Dr Prashant, whom we know has vast experience in forensic pathology. So what he was working in Fiji and India? Let me remind MOH that the postmortem rates in our local teaching and government hospitals is at a dismal low. So much so that medical postgraduates do not have adequate opportunity to learn how to conduct a full postmortem (pm). How can they then claimed to be adequately trained? I am sure with that Serdang fler's (limited) experience while he was in UKM and then in Serdang, the number of postmortem conducted must be limited. If official figures are available the pm rate are the lowest amongst the Malays, who form the majority of patients admitted to govt hospitals. Their beliefs about death and the afterlife do not encourage them to have pm done readily unless it is a coroner's case. The situation in India (not sure about in Fiji) is a lot more different. Ask any of the medical doctors, and they will tell you that doctors trained in India are among the best surgeons in the world. This is because of the large number of cadavers available for learning anatomy and dissection. The same goes for the availability of corpses for pm.
4. It is reliably learnt that on the day the police raided the pathology department in UMMC for the reports and specimens, they were also dusting for finger prints in ALL the rooms of the pathologists, regardless of whether he/she was involved in the pm. This high-handed tactic of seizing pathology samples and obstructing the truth being unveiled is unheard of in any medical history.
5. It was reported that Kugan's family has lodged a official complaint against the Serdang fler with MMC.In this regards Merican must recuse himself from the hearing (if at all one is being convened)since he is the Chairman of MMC and has made statements which can be considered "subjudice" and detrimental to the deceased's family.
Lets honour the liar with a noble prize, which Malaysia sorely lacks in the feild of medicine.
ReplyDeleteI smell a rat......and it stinks!
ReplyDeleteZorro,
ReplyDeleteThis might interest your followers and the general public:
Kugan's case: Unsettling questions remain. David KL Quek | Apr 9, 09 12:33pm
DR DAVID KL QUEK is past editor-in-chief of the MMA (Malaysian Medical
Association) News for 11 years and currently president-elect of the MMA.:
It is laudable that the Ministry of Health had taken the preemptive move to help diffuse the public anger regarding the custodial death of Kugan Ananthan, especially in the light of discrepancies between two separate
post-mortems.
Whether an inquiry initiated on its own behalf is the correct avenue to address the public unease about this custodial death, is open to differing interpretation, acceptance or otherwise.
Any inquiry if it should be made at all should be carefully-constituted, thoughtfully empanelled and well-empowered by law. Its terms of reference
must be made absolutely clear. It must uphold the final truth.
It must be based on facts and rational analyses of findings which are consistent, and which should be striving towards the ultimate truth of what actually is the cause of death or its contributing factors.
It should not be simply to water down discrepancies which would need fuller explanation and perhaps further elaboration from the actual forensic pathologists who had performed their respective tasks. These pathologists
should be allowed to defend their findings and interpretations.
Furthermore, more expert and renowned forensic pathologists should have been invited to give their interpretations as to the facts of the findings and their weightage of causes of death, especially since there had been
unmistakable evidence of torture, i.e. undeniable beating marks and
unexplained bruises. These experts should be fiercely independent and thus unimpeachable.
Most importantly, this inquiry held behind closed doors, should not be seen to be papering over any misdeeds of any authority which it may be perceived as trying to defend.
Also, since this is not a public hearing and we know that the second
pathologist declined to take part in the inquiry, this may make the report less than solid or above reproach. Seniority of pathologists is no measure of professional competence. Forensic evidence based on previous precedents and specialist experience, and not conjectures should be the essence of any
meaningful truth-finding exercise.
It is usually disingenuous and pointless to assume another chance event as having taken place to be the cause of death, just because it is possible. Suggesting the unlikely pathologically- unevidenced diagnosis of acute
myocarditis is simply conjecture. Whichever is more probable and plausible is usually the truth, to paraphrase the legendary Shelock Holmes.
Doctors are alarmed by seizure. Unfortunately, because of these glaring slants to the report, questions will continue to linger as to whether this report is truly independent and whether all the inquiry members are in agreement with the findings.
The legal standing of the report is still questionable, and may be
challenged in a proper court. It might be better to have a public inquiry where all queries and representation can be made known to the satisfaction of the public, and especially, the victim's family.
To add salt to injury, doctors are aghast and very alarmed that the police had raided the UMMC pathologist's office and taken the material records of his autopsy findings. We are also shocked about media reports that tissue
samples for toxicology which had meant to be sent to an independent
laboratory in Australia had been intercepted and seized by the police.
Toxicological studies should always be allowed to enable proper and independent discovery of the truth. Denial of such a legitimate avenue for forensic finding would prejudice against the police, and make their action that much more difficult to accept or to tolerate.
Therefore, this arbitrary seizure is reprehensible, unprecedented and
certainly breaches normal procedures of medico-legal discovery. Usually only detailed reports are obtained from court-approved injunctions and demands.
Medical records and details are nominally the property of the physician in charge or the facility where he practices, and should only be made available
under a court order, and are usually never confiscated or seizable by any enforcement authority.
There are clear procedures to be followed, and are well articulated in handbooks for the police and enforcement authorities, clearly established by the UN Center for Human Rights. I'd like to reiterate that: "International
humanitarian law prohibits the following acts in all situations: - murder; - torture; - corporal punishment; - mutilation; -outrages upon personal
dignity; - hostage-taking; - collective punishment; - executions without
regular trial; - cruel or degrading treatment."
Such extrajudicial actions should never be made in a climate of intimidating circumstances just because these events may mar the good name and professionalism of the police force.
It is difficult to comment when the DG of Health decides to come forward and announce this so-called independent inquiry, which incidentally incorporates
two foreign specialists. At best this inquiry had added to the confusion of being a third interpretation into this sad case of custodial death and did
not refute the probability of torture.
Adhere to humanitarian principles
Any custodial death in any instance the world over, is inexcusable, wrong and criminal. The UN Human Rights Committee has defined "Extralegal, arbitrary or summary executions as deprivation of life without full judicial
process, and with the involvement, complicity, tolerance or acquiescence of the government or its agents. This includes death through the use of excessive force by police or security forces."
Torture is further defined by the United Nations Human Rights Committee (UNHRC) and its Committee against Torture (CAT as: "Any act committed with intent to cause severe pain or suffering, whether mental or physical, for
purposes such as: (a) obtaining information or a confession; (b) punishing, intimidating or coercing."
Therefore, torture of any one suspect or detainee or prisoner is never condoned, whether this leads on to death is immaterial (but which only adds to the grievousness of the crime), and is liable for prosecution in any
international court of law.
Kugan's custodial death and other possible past custodial deaths should be given a truly independent investigation by a publicly open Royal Commission
or Inquiry or even by Suhakam.
It is time that we adhere to humanitarian principles as we grapple with our modernisation to become a developed people and nation. Our human development
index as a civilised nation must necessarily rise proportionately.
We call on the police and law enforcement agencies to respect these tenets of modern life and human rights and urge them to abide by these nondiscriminatory rules as a norm. Only then, can we believe and respect their true and usual professionalism again.
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http://donplaypuks.blogspot.com
DON'T HIDE WHAT YOU MUST REVEAL
ReplyDeleteThe more one tries to hide
The more one will eventually reveal
Since there are divine laws to abide
There can be no earthly secrets to conceal
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http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
Mon. 13th Apr. 2009.
it's disgusting to see all the tops are the most corrupted & immoral people and they control the country.
ReplyDelete21 luxury cars owner who got thier car back are certainly happy about police help. NFA is indeed the best action. Not worth to go all out for a car theif. Just consider himself unlucky.
ReplyDelete252pm anon, which insuran Co. do u own !?
ReplyDeleteMr Bernard,
ReplyDeleteThank you very much for highlighting my comment.
I wish all you bloggers good luck and please accept my appreciation for standing up for truth and justice.
Regards,
Dr.Suresh,
Melbourne
Case dismissed ! tutup muluts semua !
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