YESTERDAY, I put up a post to announce the Debate GMI has organised for 9 May at the Dewan Civic, Petaling Jaya. GMI invited PEWARIS who says YES TO ISA to this debate. As a blogger who wants to see the total abolition of the ISA, I too want to know why Pewaris says YES TO ISA. I too like to engage Pewaris on this occasion.I got this feedback from a regular commentator who comes in to dispense her venom on all and sundry. This morning she crossed the line: She wrote:
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Idzan Ismail said... Fellas
Why the debate on ISA halal or haram?
Why not debate on the haram acts of the people detained under the ISA.
Uncle,your dare is larded with blubber.
I fear you will be the first Malaysia to get the Swine Flu.
God forbid.
fadiahnadwafikri said...
Dear Idzan Ismail,
i wonder what is your justification in saying that the detainees have done haram acts?for an act to be haram or illegal, it must be proven in court, i believe uve heard that there is an institution called court?and there is an established principle called due process. i believe we dont have to be geniuses to actually be aware of that.
perhaps if you have the time, you can go read islamic jurisprudence by hashim kambali and also jurisprudence book by curzon.good luck!
Read other comments HERE.
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Idzan, I am not distressed by your wish, but more disappointed that
you have sunk to such depths
as to wish misfortune on others.
You can still visit but keep to the subject of the post and
don't play God.
I noticed only UMNO thugs luv to curse..its in thier blood.
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Dear Uncle Zorro
ReplyDeleteI'm flabbergasted with our Cik Idzan Ismail. It's even more shameful to accept the fact that she is a muslim but then shes the perfect example of UMNO muslims - halal bila perlu.U
ncle Zorro, we are with you, always...
Islam doesn't preach bad on others
ReplyDeleteSaying “No to ISA” making us civilized
We must be willing to engage in courts
For crimes whatever it is done
Afraid to try them
Sending them to Kah Moon Ting
Even without a proper trial
it smacks of ungentleman virtues
Nobody is guilty unless it is proven
For a country to progress we must know
The good, the bad, the ugly and the bad mouth
Wishing others bad vibes
A person has sunk into his own
To become a fool one has to be one
ISA has served its purposes
The day of communism is over
Now is the time to do
The normal police work
Wah, she's that old and she still smokes?
ReplyDeleteUncle Zorro,
ReplyDeleteI pray the curse will backfire that Idzan Ismail.
Thanks for you never ending spirit in support to the repeal of draconian ISA.
U really did it!!!
Hahaha! Zorro I'm sure you have enough antibodies in your immune system to keep you safe, it's only rodents
ReplyDeletelike this one should fear the Swine Flu!
Muslim? - no all by that name are muslims, hypocrites/munafique best describe them. See how low this rodent can go. Shame, shame, shame!!
Idzan Ismail - shame on you!
ReplyDeleteYou owe Uncle Zorro an apology!
Fadiahnadwafikri - well said!
idzan ismail ur curse may boomerang to u. repent for ur sins and seek forgiveness from almighty Lord. there are too much bitterness in ur heart and dat's why u'v trouble sleeping at nites.
ReplyDeleteMy dear Uncle Zorro,
ReplyDeleteI dont know if Idzan Ismail is the same person who used to be a reporter in Bernama, Utusan Malaysia and then the Star before she disappeared into oblivion and now making her rounds in the blogsphere dispensing her two sens.
But if she is, I’d like to ask her this.
Your uncle, Tan Sri Ghazali Shafie - the former Home Minister - was the man responsible for putting the late veteran journalist, Tan Sri Samad Ismail otherwise affectionately known as Pak Samad under, the ISA for 5 ½ years.
Pray tell me what haram act did Pak Samad do for him to be incarcerated for that length of time?
Shame on you for wishing the worst on another human being.
Have you no compassion?
el Zor, is the picture = idzan ismail !?
ReplyDeletebtw, is she the mother of ahmad ismail = the penang bukit rat ??
What GMI is advocating is that we have just laws that are humane.No ISA, which is playing god,for ISA the Home Minister is the arresting officer, the prosecuter and the judge, all in one and this is playing god. I hope Che Idzan understands that we humans are not fit to play god. God forbid.
ReplyDeleteWe must ask Idzan Ismail why/how she feel threatened by those currently in ISA. Or why she feel safe now that those detainees are in Kamunting?
ReplyDeleteHeck, if I were her I should feel more threatened by those Mat Rempits roaming our streets than those detainees. Shall we ISA the whole lot of them?
She doesn't articulate like one with wisdom or one who is well-informed. She is just a parrot.
She should research the phrase 'due process of the law.'
To debate with her would mean bringing ourselves down to her low level of mentality. Thankfully, we don't go the the same school.
Some background.
ReplyDeleteOver at Susan's Blog, Idzan posted a comment about how safe she feels with the ISA around.
Excellent said Hani and you are absolutely right, she's the one... and a disgrace !
ReplyDeleteShe has been on the rounds at most of the blogs and at one, kept preaching about how her kids are doing pretty well with this & that. You do not have to stoop so low to hit brother Zorro and this shows what type of values you have in your family, how sad..
Brother Zorro, let me just tell you to utter "Alhamdulillah" and the curse would be channeled back to her.
Muhammad Firdaus Christopher
See for youself folks. This is PR for you. People like ely wong, penang DCM fella, MP Zulkifli Noordin who stormed the bar council forum, and bloggers such as zorro.
ReplyDeleteStill think they are fighting for transparency? for human rights? for bangsa malaysia? (LOL!) , You people still believe in their lie?
So far, we have only seen them get intoxicated with power. Even this zorro blogger cannot control himself.. any dissenting views are attacked. they gang up and attack you if u dont agree with them. they will mock u , call u names, degrade u .
They will threaten to expose your IP , just like what zorro did to one commentator. Ini ke freedom of speech?
then he will ridicule you, not because your points are invalid, but because your points are different from his.
besides that, they will censor you. The very same thing they blame BN for doing. I remember, once i posted a link to a picture of RPK getting drunk with haris and zorro at a watering hole. That picture also shows RPK taking part in a weird ritualistic , non muslim prayer. Did zorro publish that comment? take a wild guess....
so tell me folks, is this the kind of people we want malaysia to breed? do we need more haters, more slander, more immoral people in this country of ours?
Now they are beginning to go over board. this non muslims talking about haram and halal. Marginalising the majority of the country. humiliating us in our homeland.
Are we going to sit back as they climb to our heads and shit on us?
careful. see what they did to singapore. Our land. now they say that no other people can be the PM except the chinese. How did people from thousands of miles away come to this land and rule it and claim it their own?
wont happen now in malaysia? think again, look at penang. How long before penang ends up like singapore?
Berapa lama sebelum melayu merempat di negara sendiri? Are we going to sit back as this people insult us like this?
Melayu, jangan jadi bodoh lagi. When they curse the rempits, the umnoputra etc, they are actually cursing YOU! You melayu are the butt of their jokes. You melayu, dihina. They control the economy, do you not think they dont want to control the politics too? of course they do, and all this bloggers like this clueless zorro are all part of this big agenda..
soon Gwo burne too will be saying that only chinese can be PM in malaysia... just like our friend down south.
Hi Bernard,
ReplyDeleteI am just a tad worried about this Idzan Ismail. I think no one has told her that when one points a finger (to swear) at someone, there are THREE other fingers pointing back towards her. Thats pretty dangerous. Let this be a lesson to the BN-UMNO goons who love to resort to name calling, cursing and whatever other foul sign or language.
Is this the same sweet Idzan who came politely into Dato' sak's blog today?
ReplyDeleteShe gave a bit of her background.
And she was with STAR a long time ago.
unka zorro,
ReplyDeletethe idzan critter might prove to be the one selected on the panel opposing GMI and for ISA. idzan you seem to have a point of view here, let's hear you debate it out in the public forum. what do you say, people?
To Asmuri Aliph:
ReplyDeleteAll I can say is.....LOL.
1. "Dissenting views are attacked" - Wishing zorro being the first to get swine flu is hardly a dissenting view. Zorro only retaliated with this post because of that personal attack. I doubt you follow much of his postings, he not only allows dissenting views but engages in debate regarding them.
2. "Picture about RPK" - Haven't heard or seen it so not going to comment.
3. "The kind of people you want Malaysia to breed" - Certainly not YOUR kind.
4. "Non-muslims talking about haram and halal" - By your almighty decree, you declare that these two words are exclusive to Muslims? There's no reason to get upset as long as the usage is correct and not deliberately misinterpreted.
5. Last few paragraphs - See? This is just the kind of seditious statements commonly found in Utusan Malaysia. Hope you enjoy your favourite paper! Of course, if you identify Malays with Mat Rempits and Umnoputras and all things negative, be my guest. You are only dragging your own race down the drain.
Cheers.
Once in a while during heat, a bitch like Idzan would go out whore-ing for her masters. Anyway, today, I managed to stop at least 5 groups of friends from eating at the Mamaks. I have made this my full time job since I already retired and have nothing else better to do. Tomorrow I hope to reach out to at least 8, and I'm blady enjoying it. I plan to do a "Promotion" in front of Mydin.
ReplyDeleteHani....the same one. She admitted this at Sakmongkol AK47. She was very well behaved though in that blog.
ReplyDeleteJason: that picture about RPK...a few days before he went missing Pete wanted to party with his friends. Many sensed that things were not right. Everytime he parties, a few days later the police will take him in. The christians amongst us prayed for him publicly. Pete was so overcome with emotion that he could not manage a thank you. Of course Asmuri was not there and he had to make his conclusions that Pete, Haris and I were drunk. That is pathetic.
Teluk Dua and Queenie:
ReplyDeleteYes she should come to the civic centre on 9 May and engage us, civilly. But I doubt she has that inclination.
One can tell by the way she speaks and carry herself--just another a** H**e...MORON.
ReplyDeleteIt reminded me of my school's day teacher who used to scold someone- Big mouth stupid MORON.
limpek
Hello Guru...
ReplyDeleteThe ISA is a Law of Oppression! Plain and Simple. We have too many outdated laws in this country that is harsh, cruel and evil and so are the supporters and propagators of this long outdated law.
PS new posting here as related:http://hawkeyejack.blogspot.com/
IDZAN ISMAIL, you are at it again. Woman you are now cursing people. You call yourself a muslim. Actually you want people to screw you up
ReplyDeletezorro,
ReplyDeleteyou must have hit the G-spot else this fella wouldnt have reacted with such fury.
keep it up zorro. hmm..is that the best from UMNO sycophants?
Is this the same Cik Idzan that gave her two-sen worth on 'Duh Star' today?
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/deaozc
I love the part about getting Mat Rempits to join Zahid's Harley rallies.
Hot headed repressed youngsters with experience only on sub 500-cc bikes, being given 1 liter monsters? Any motorcycle expert will tell you its a disaster waiting to happen.
About that pix of RPK... 'That picture also shows RPK taking part in a weird ritualistic , non muslim prayer.'
ReplyDeleteOne, how rude to call another's a weird ritualistic prayer! And I'm not a god-believer, so I'm not being partisan.
And I saw that pix. I wasn't there like you were, Z, but that pix just shows others praying FOR Pete. Is it wrong to include someone in a prayer, to pray for their well-being? Or is it just wrong because it was a 'weird', non-muslim ritual??!
I wonder if guys like these realise that they show so much of themselves, their warped mentalities, and the bigotry they accuse others of in their comments.
I find their contributions a simply fascinating study of human nature. But, unfortunately, not it's prettier side, is it?!
assmuri, yes i rather trust zorror !
ReplyDeleteAsmuri Aliph,
ReplyDeleteIf you think Malaysian and not Melayu, there is a future for all of us.
We can agree to a political division but you seem to be promoting an agenda of racial division.
Asmuri oh Asmuri, apa kena kau ni, angin panas marah tak tentu pasal.
ReplyDeleteMelayu yg patut dihina, dicaci dan dimaki semuanya kat UMNO, dari atas sampai lah ke bawah. Why ? Pasal dia org semua pencuri, penyamun, langgar Perlembagaan serta musuh Islam.
Yg bawah kat UMNO mungkin kita boleh tak tegur tapi sampah masyarakat yg diatas, PM bersama kerabat samseng yg duduk Majlis Tinggi semua patut dibuang masuk penjara.
["so tell me folks, is this the kind of people we want malaysia to breed? do we need more haters, more slander, more immoral people in this country of ours?"]
Your Boss @ UMNO President is all that you have described above. Wasn't he the one who got Saiful Tonggeng to swear by the good book to accuse Anwar of playing 'jolok-jolok'?
Najib initially denied meeting Tonggeng(just like 'Tuya) but a photo appeared soon after. Najib's office then changed tune to say Tonggeng came to inquire about a scholarship ! WTF.
I must commend you for assuming the role of a fool but I would be deeply worried(as much as I and others don't know you) if you are truly delusional.
Regards nevertheless.
Idzan, why would you want Bernard, or for that matter anyone in this country to get the swine flu? Since it is a bloody contagious disease, having it appearing in Malaysia would create a severe emergency as those anti-viral treatment and vaccines that is available at the moment have no effect on the virus even at high dosage.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like you, MAD-am Idzan who has demonstrated to everyone here that you are a clear and present danger to the security and well-being of this nation. For wanting to inflict a deadly epidemic on the citizens of your own country, you are not only a terrorist but also a traitor and a deviant of your Faith.
One Japanese-san said this. "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare." Between you and Bernard here, who do you think is the one with the action and who's the one that's a nightmare?
Now, would someone call Rais Yatim and get him to haul this MAD-am Insane to Kamunting and detain her under the ISA. Heck, Bernard here might even borrow some of those books RPK read while he was under detention and lend it to you while he continue his struggle to abolish this freaking Draconian Flaw and try to get you out.
Sometimes people just go nuts, these Asmuri and Idzan Ismail,they belive in UMNO's spin and got crazy in the process,that what happen when you read to much Utusan and watch to much mainstream news. I bet if the government media tell them that the non-malays are alliens and are planning to take over Malaysia later the whole world,these jokers will listen to them,then pitty Uncle Zorro as he will be accused as alliens.Kamunting should be trnsformed into a mental institution to admit these no-brainer,Malaysia will be better of without them,RACIST.
ReplyDeleteIdzan Ismail,
ReplyDeleteYou want to debate, that is fine. But get the topic right. Might as well if you are going to bother debating.
You want to try this:
"ISA detainees represent to those in power a reminder of their own Internal Insecurities than they do a threat to the Internal Security of the nation"!
Idzan, We are here to discuss our our thoughts intellectually. We may have difference. But please don't curse people in such a manner. Take care.
ReplyDeleteSyed Noor.
Arsemuri and Shitzan, what a pair you both make!
ReplyDeleteMaster heard the latest Perak shaken by tremors,the gods must be saying something to this pirates who have taken over the govt.
ReplyDeleteZorro, the one who spoke a curse is nothing but a fool..
ReplyDelete'Like snow in summer or rain in harvest, honor is not fitting for a fool.
Like a fluttering sparrow or a darting swallow, an undeserved curse does not come to rest.
A whip for the horse, a halter for the donkey, and a rod for the backs of fools!'
The fool who spoke a curse will soon be consumed in her own wrath and pride.
Di atas nama TUHAN, ia adalah halal.
ReplyDeleteDi atas nama HANTU, ia adalah haram.
Mengapa? Sebab hantu yang HARAM dah naik MARAH lah!
Dear Zorro
ReplyDeleteWld appreciate if you could forward this meaasge and publicise it. Tq.
URGENT MESSAGE TO YB LIM KIAT SIANG, DAP & PKR
NOTICE TO REMOVE PERAK SPEAKER
Please get your legal eagles moving on it PRONTO!
If the notice was dated 23rd April 2009 (last Thursday) the it clearly does not comply with the requirement of 14 clear days notice.
If you exclude week-ends and public holidays (e.g. 1st May - labour day) when the State Assembly does not sit, then there's no way that 2nd hand car salesman Camry can comply with the legal requirements of the State Assembly for notice of any motion.
If Camry next resorts to an emergency motion, this can easily be thrown out by YB Sivakumar as 'not being urgent or in the interest of the public!'
So, please investigate and act swiftly especially since every M'sian knows the UMNO MB's appointment is illegal has not been resolved by the Ipoh High Court.
http://donplaypuks.blogspot.com
Funny , all those at candle light vigils and those who support the warped version of bangsa malaysia does not include the majority race of malaysia. How to form bangsa malaysia when u dont see eye to eye with 70% of the population? how many malays do you see coming out to your defence in this blog?
ReplyDeleteIt seems like you all are living in your twilight zone with a perverse agenda to subordinate the majority of malaysians.
if this is such a beautiful cause for ALL malaysians, then how come its support base are people from China who cannot even speak our NATIONAL LANGUAGE?
To Asmuri Aliph,
ReplyDeleteyou said:-wont happen now in malaysia? think again, look at penang. How long before penang ends up like singapore?
hehehe, hey I want Penang to be like Singapore. I am forever a proud Penangite, and if Penang can be like Singapore,man I will die peacefully. this instant itself I will pack my bags and balik kampung:)
hehehehe
Mum In Smiles
To Asmuri Aliph .... otak hang ni memang "katak dibawah Tempurung" !!
ReplyDeleteMelayu in Singapore is much more better economically and living standard than those Melayu in Tanah Melayu.
Asmuri... you memang katak !!
Nico
Uncle,
ReplyDeleteThe least - and that's a lot - I can say of Idzan Ismail is that she identifies herself. I have absolutely no quarrel with anyone who wishes to see me dead including God for the simple reason that's where we all are going. So neither is it a big nor a done deal. Metaphorically speaking, I am willing to step into your shoes or stand in front of you and take her shot. Love Idzan, love Uncle!
Dont take notice of that old bag idzan ismail and dont get emotional on such scum bags.This f%$#ing pest is parading in most blogs with an agenda from umno.Should look at what she wrote in Sakamonkol's blog and compare her in usual sicko style in most blogs.All those mummy crabs from this whinning bitch on heat.
ReplyDeletePerhaps its time bloggers censure her as a security risk!
Glenfendish
Zaharan, its an honor bestowed on me by your visit. Yes, because Idzan identified herself, I engage her. I am not perfect and if someone has something to censure me, I need to listen. That has always been my stand. But Zah, I have no stomach for racism....partisan politics I can accept. Thanks for the visit. I read your posts and you are on my blogroll if you have not noticed.
ReplyDeleteTelur Dua,
ReplyDeleteI doubt she has feelings at all. If she ever have feelings, she would not be cursing uncle Z. Our Dear Sis Merah Hitam's husband is in ISA for such a long time. NO TRIAL or anything. Is that a fair thing to her and her family?
You know? May be she just need to walk around Chow Kit and see whether she feel secure around the area or go into ISA Camp and stay for a while?
While our country is under bad management, I do now know where she has place her eyes.
i am a bit confused.
ReplyDeleteThe comment says I fear whilst the photo says I hope.....
i can deduce that one is written by Idzan, whilst the other is photo-edited by Zorro.
The two have quite different operative intent...yang mana betul ni?
in transit
that bitch must have also sold my late granduncle off. ghazali shafie sold my late granduncle off as well.
ReplyDeleteis she trying to walk around into blogsphere like a minister or what? dictating terms and stuff alike?
WTF????
I hope people like Idzan Ismail fade away soon, trying to fob off her racist ramblings clothed in civilised language in so-called newspapers like 'the Star'(sorry did I call that rag a newspaper?). She makes out she is so civic minded, but inside she seethes with her xenophobic hatred....
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