Haris Ibrahim of People's Parliament and I have just firmed this. It will be a forum. He has MALIK IMTIAZ and I am hoping to rope in Tengku Aziz (Will they never learn?) and Professor Dr. M Tajuddin M Rasdi (Are you Parents dead too?) Should any of you out there have a speaker in mind, do let us know.Date and Venue are not firmed yet but we will announce the details shortly. Pass the word around and it would do justice to this effort if parents can contribute their inputs.
THIS NS - IS IT IN THE SOCIAL CONTRACT ALSO?
ReplyDeleteYES? THEN MUST GO LA!
IF NO... THEN DON'T GIVE A FUCK!!!
yes yes yes. say no no no to ns.
ReplyDeletens is there only to enrich some bastards who do not care if 2, 20, 200 or even 2000 paticipants die.
tks unc zorro or people's parliament for this initiative.
A great sensible start to understanding and eventually resolving this despicable madness, once and for all.
ReplyDeleteTQ for taking quick real action. I await further tangible developments.
feet on ground ( eyes looking behind )
I have made up my mind long ago: I will not give parental consent if any of my children is called up for NS. They can put me in jail or whatever.
ReplyDeleteThe whole NS is just a sham... a smokescreen to give away Rakyat's money to cronies.
This forum on NS has my support and attendance. I will get other parents to contribute. It's about time parents unite and protest on this ill conceived, badly run, imbecilic program so typically reflective of Bolehland projects with embedded self interest. When will our politicians get something right for once? If they volunteer their children to attend camp without any favorable treatment, I will be less opposed. Set an example, all federal ministers.
ReplyDeleteIt's high time the NGOs, activist, and good thinking Malaysians put in their concerted efforts to throw this NS program into the sea!
ReplyDeleteStop the NS program, stop the cronism!
Stop the UMNO gravy train!
If the forum is to have any real impact, I suggest you endeavour to invite some of the parents who lost their kids, to tell us how they feel about this National Sacrifice ("NS")
ReplyDeleteKudos to u Uncle Zorro and Haris.....u have my full support!!
ReplyDeleteDPM wants NS to continue bcos his cronies say so?
Well then, send every one of your kids and those of every other cabinet ministers to NS first to show us there's no cause for concern and we, your employers will mull over it.
As for me, I'd rather go to jail than to put my flesh and blood in harm's way.
Yes Zorro. Name the time and place. I will be there. Deaths in NS is something that is unnecessary and I do not see how a bunch of BTN flers can make NS go-ers to be more patriotic.
ReplyDeleteIs hard to believe that our own leader put money instead of citizen life in the first place.
ReplyDeleteRakyat's children are dying for someone own interest, is it?
ReplyDeleteCall an end to the NS. Don't wait until the next GE.
Count me to be there. Get rid of NS and send it to the rubbish bins.
ReplyDeleteZorro, I am in. Long as I am in KL I will be there. Keep me posted.
ReplyDeletePatrick
Can somebody go and get Lee Lam Thye soul back from the devil?
ReplyDeleteHis body cannot wait for his soul anymore!
Zorro & Harris,
ReplyDeleteGood on you both to initiate this forum which I truly endorse & support.
Hope I will be in KL on that date.
As Zorro says, let us all "Walk our Talk".
Deaths in NS is unaccepted at all. count me in.
ReplyDeleteThis government just dont give a damn about the deaths in NS.
ReplyDeleteUMNO-BN gotta go.
I M in
ReplyDeletethe freaking lee now says he cant be held responsible coz he holds a non-executive chairman position.
ReplyDeletei sure hope he is not paid a dime coz he has no responsibility.
dont try to cry anymore, mr lee. your tears have dried up coz the bodies have piled high enough.
go enjoy your life with your hand full of blood of 20 malaysians who died needlessly. sleep well and i think you can coz your conscience is long gone. Remember, Lee there's Karma.
Count me in, Zorro & Haris.
ReplyDeleteI've been opposing this from Day One.
As for speakers, how about someone from Aliran - because theyve been issuing statements on the NS.
And maybe someone who has undergone the NS training and isn't afraid to say what really went on there.
Or maybe the parent/s of one of the trainees whose child died during the training.
what a stupid malaysian to band the NS.it's good la bodoh.u think this place is like going to die ka.
ReplyDeleteeverything is fate by god.if god said, u will die at toilet, what to do...?
here i want to share about NS.
read this www.raksasabn.blogspot.com
How about inviting Royal Professor Ungku Aziz as one of the speakers!
ReplyDeleteZorro Sir,
ReplyDeleteJust because another trainee died, you want to scrap the NS?
Come on Sir, you are not that narrow minded, are you?
Do you agree with me if I say that more of these youth will die if they were not in the training camps?
Some of these 80,000 or so trainees might be involved in other activities which expose them to greater danger for example illegal racing, partying involving drugs and many, many more.
So, 11 deaths among the 400,000 in the past 4 or 5 years is no big deal Sir.
Anon 10:45. I am posting here the same comments that I gave to YgAriff in my latest posting. I hope it answers your queries:
ReplyDeleteI am against the current structure this NS is run. I want sit patterned like Singapore's NS, structured professionally and run
professionally. If the current structure is not reformed, there are bound to be more unwanted incidents. As a former teacher, besides imparting knowledge, discipline to prepare the kids was uppermost in my to do priorities. I drew that line and god help you if you cross that line. Three months to instill discipline and promote integration should have been done in the 11 years in school. Sir, this NS is a knee-jerk, quick-fix. I always champion integration and I never allowed, if I could help it, two kids of the same race to sit together in class.
The Mat Rempit menace was not nipped in the bud. You must admit this. They were given iconic status by none other than KJ and the head of UMNO Putera. They were given status at Ijok. The police were soft on MR and the judiciary thought nothing of administering the proper dose of punishment.
Our rehab centres are flawed. Drugs still find their way into these centres thru official "intermediaries". Lets not kid ourselves that this is not happening.
YES! NO to what the NS is now. Honestly I do.
You said:So, 11 deaths among the 400,000 in the past 4 or 5 years is no big deal Sir.
To me, even 1 death which could be AVOIDED is a big deal and I am sure to THE affected parents too.
Mayb eyou should invite Lee Lam Thye and get the shit out of him during the forum because he will be the only Najib cronie who will be championing the NS cause!!! Sick of all these fellows lah! NO TO NS!!!!!
ReplyDeleteProbabably in someone's mind, NS really means "Naj** Sadism."
ReplyDeleteThat bloody bastard obtains pleasure from maiming or killing the trainees including a translator from Far North.